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**Rain Man** · 05:36 PM

A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American?

Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot.

The rules:

1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces.

2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis.

3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either.

4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes.

Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll.

Mojo Jojo · 08-31-2009, 05:34 PM

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Dubya. I think he will be hated for a long time.

How about Clay???? (Just kidding) Or better yet Nick Athan (not kidding)

**The Franchise** · 08-31-2009, 05:35 PM

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Timothy McVeigh

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John Wilkes Booth

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Lee Harvey Oswald.

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Jeffrey Dahmer

Any one of these guys.

**Donger** · 08-31-2009, 05:36 PM

Jim Jones?

**Buck** · 08-31-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Jim Jones?

+1

listopencil · 08-31-2009, 05:39 PM

Charles Manson.

Ebolapox · 08-31-2009, 05:40 PM

john wayne gacy

the green river killer (I think they eventually found out who it was)

the zodiac killer.

hell, almost any serial killer would do.

**Donger** · 08-31-2009, 05:40 PM

What was the name of that broad who killed a bunch of people with an axe years ago? Not that I think she's in the running, mind you. I just can't remember her name. There's a kids' song about her?

Lizzie Borden?

listopencil · 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM

Vanilla Ice.

**TrebMaxx** · 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM

David Richard Berkowitz the Son of Sam.

Ebolapox · 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Charles Manson.

hi, my name's charlie. charlie manson.

**TrebMaxx** · 08-31-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What was the name of that broad who killed a bunch of people with an axe years ago? Not that I think she's in the running, mind you. I just can't remember her name. There's a kids' song about her?

Lizzie Borden?

Lizzie Borden I do believe.

Ebolapox · 08-31-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What was the name of that broad who killed a bunch of people with an axe years ago? Not that I think she's in the running, mind you. I just can't remember her name. There's a kids' song about her?

Lizzie Borden?

yep, lizzie borden is the name of that particular piece of fluff.

**Buck** · 08-31-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What was the name of that broad who killed a bunch of people with an axe years ago? Not that I think she's in the running, mind you. I just can't remember her name. There's a kids' song about her?

Lizzie Borden?

I think its Mary Faye Tucker

only reason I remember because somebody on the radio back then accidentally said Mary Taye ****er.

Edit: Per google "Karla Faye Tucker"

listopencil · 08-31-2009, 05:42 PM

The Unabomber.

Dante84 · 08-31-2009, 05:43 PM

08-31-2009, 05:15 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-672449 VARSITY	Who is the greatest American villain? A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American? Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot. The rules: 1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces. 2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis. 3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either. 4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes. Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-31-2009 at 05:36 PM..
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