Chiefs Get rid of ****ing LJ already... - Page 3

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-11-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I was at the game today and there is literally nowhere to run. I was watching from the end zone in the upper deck, saw the plays develop and it is a cluster**** on the OL.

He has no chance. When he actually got holes last week he produced. This week there was NOTHING. Three yards and a cloud of dust was the best we could hope for.

This is largely true. Larry is still done, but this interior line is so mother****ing bad that only Barry Sanders could produce behind it.

Niswanger and Goff must be cut. They just aren't NFL players, in any shape or form.

Coogs · 10-11-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is largely true. Larry is still done, but this interior line is so mother****ing bad that only Barry Sanders could produce behind it.

We saw the same stuff 2 years ago. LJ could not find anywhere to run. Kolby Smith came into the game and made things happen behind the same damn offensive line that LJ couldn't make a yard behind. Kolby Smith... think about that for a minute.

4th and Long · 10-11-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I was at the game today and there is literally nowhere to run. I was watching from the end zone in the upper deck, saw the plays develop and it is a cluster**** on the OL.

He has no chance. When he actually got holes last week he produced. This week there was NOTHING. Three yards and a cloud of dust was the best we could hope for.

You don't need to be at the game to see that. It's in bright, vivid, colorful HD at home.

L.A. Chieffan · 10-11-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I was at the game today and there is literally nowhere to run. I was watching from the end zone in the upper deck, saw the plays develop and it is a cluster**** on the OL.

He has no chance. When he actually got holes last week he produced. This week there was NOTHING. Three yards and a cloud of dust was the best we could hope for.

I wish he could get three yards. Charles obviously runs with more heart.

ArrowheadHawk · 10-11-2009, 05:42 PM

Charles needs to be the every down back.

Barret · 10-11-2009, 06:40 PM

Well what I saw with LJ today was he would run right into the line and not change direction or try to find a hole.

Yes the o-line sucks but LJ does not have the ability to change direction to bounce to the outside once the hole closes in the middle.

4th and Long · 10-11-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barret

Well what I saw with LJ today was he would run right into the line and not change direction or try to find a hole.

Yes the o-line sucks but LJ does not have the ability to change direction to bounce to the outside once the hole closes in the middle.

There has to BE a hole in order to FIND one. When the gaps are filled by the defenders, that makes the task rather difficult, if not impossible.

TheGuardian · 10-11-2009, 06:51 PM

Adrian Peterson would be getting his nuts kicked in behind this line. It's hard to fathom but this line is easily the worst I've ever seen in my entire lifetime of watching football.

Brian Waters is a shell of himself and Albert is having a slump. Albert is still a good player I don't care what anyone says. But from the center to the right tackle there is no push, there is no protection. So when you can't get any push from the center, which Niswanger can't, then the whole scheme breaks down.

Think about it from a defensive standpoint. If we had a defensive tackle that could collapse the center right into the backfield every snap, our defense would be able to....

a. stop the run
b. sack the QB because he would not be able to step up

Well, every week we make some nose tackle/defensive tackle tandem look like Jesus in cleats. When Niswanger and Goff are gone, the line will immediately improve. Hell, when Goff got hurt today Larry followed that up with his two longest runs. It's not a coincidence.

BryanBusby · 10-11-2009, 06:51 PM

Might as well beat the **** out of the worthless bastard behind this piss-poor line and dump him like a dirty bar skank when the year is done.

donkhater · 10-11-2009, 06:56 PM

Well, I can't believe I'm defending them, but take this into consideration...

They essentailly got a brand new playbook 2 weeks before the season and the current QB was hurt leading up to the season.

Meanwhile, new players are shuffled in and out which has to make it difficult for continuity.

They are thinking and playing passively. They have to react and attack and be instincive about the pickups they need when teams bring the blitz. They just don't pick up assignments well and you see that on TV.

Yes they are professionals and it shouldn't matter, but let's face it, they aren't super talented enough to get by on sheer athletic talent. They ARE likely good enough to be a decent line that works together, if they can get a little time in with this offense.
the talent needs upgarded to be sure, but they can play better.

LaChapelle · 10-11-2009, 06:58 PM

They need a young dumb full of cum running back to punish the defenders. LJ knows he can't afford injury.

**bevischief** · 10-11-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

They need a young dumb full of cum running back to punish the defenders. LJ knows he can't afford injury.

This.

DTHOF · 10-11-2009, 06:59 PM

It looked t me all day that they were plugging up the middle cause they knew LJ wasn't going to bounce it. Even if he doesn't get any extra yardage how 'bout bouncing one out there to a least show a threat of it.

Pablo · 10-11-2009, 07:01 PM

NO. KEEP HIM. HE OBVIOUSLY STILL HAS 'IT'.

**mlyonsd** · 10-11-2009, 07:08 PM

When PH got hurt LJ had the luxury of a very good offensive line. One that many backs would look good with. Same thing when he was at Penn State.

I don't think he really has the vision of a top tier RB.

10-11-2009, 05:42 PM	#5
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10-11-2009, 06:40 PM	#6
Barret Still Lurking Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: East Texas Casino cash: $1913790	Well what I saw with LJ today was he would run right into the line and not change direction or try to find a hole. Yes the o-line sucks but LJ does not have the ability to change direction to bounce to the outside once the hole closes in the middle.
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10-11-2009, 06:51 PM	#8
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6305299	Adrian Peterson would be getting his nuts kicked in behind this line. It's hard to fathom but this line is easily the worst I've ever seen in my entire lifetime of watching football. Brian Waters is a shell of himself and Albert is having a slump. Albert is still a good player I don't care what anyone says. But from the center to the right tackle there is no push, there is no protection. So when you can't get any push from the center, which Niswanger can't, then the whole scheme breaks down. Think about it from a defensive standpoint. If we had a defensive tackle that could collapse the center right into the backfield every snap, our defense would be able to.... a. stop the run b. sack the QB because he would not be able to step up Well, every week we make some nose tackle/defensive tackle tandem look like Jesus in cleats. When Niswanger and Goff are gone, the line will immediately improve. Hell, when Goff got hurt today Larry followed that up with his two longest runs. It's not a coincidence.
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10-11-2009, 06:51 PM	#9
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	Might as well beat the **** out of the worthless bastard behind this piss-poor line and dump him like a dirty bar skank when the year is done.
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10-11-2009, 06:56 PM	#10
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Well, I can't believe I'm defending them, but take this into consideration... They essentailly got a brand new playbook 2 weeks before the season and the current QB was hurt leading up to the season. Meanwhile, new players are shuffled in and out which has to make it difficult for continuity. They are thinking and playing passively. They have to react and attack and be instincive about the pickups they need when teams bring the blitz. They just don't pick up assignments well and you see that on TV. Yes they are professionals and it shouldn't matter, but let's face it, they aren't super talented enough to get by on sheer athletic talent. They ARE likely good enough to be a decent line that works together, if they can get a little time in with this offense. the talent needs upgarded to be sure, but they can play better. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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10-11-2009, 06:58 PM	#11
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	They need a young dumb full of cum running back to punish the defenders. LJ knows he can't afford injury.
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10-11-2009, 06:59 PM	#13
DTHOF Starter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Melbourne FL Casino cash: $3520477	It looked t me all day that they were plugging up the middle cause they knew LJ wasn't going to bounce it. Even if he doesn't get any extra yardage how 'bout bouncing one out there to a least show a threat of it.
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10-11-2009, 07:01 PM	#14
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1900644	NO. KEEP HIM. HE OBVIOUSLY STILL HAS 'IT'.
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10-11-2009, 07:08 PM	#15
mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $-2236238	When PH got hurt LJ had the luxury of a very good offensive line. One that many backs would look good with. Same thing when he was at Penn State. I don't think he really has the vision of a top tier RB.
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