Chiefs This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? - Page 3

RedThat · 11-24-2009, 01:27 PM

I think so.

Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year.

They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible.

What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over.

I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I would've have liked seeing Tyler Thigpen get a legitimate shot at the starting quarterback position. By far, I think he's the better option over Cassel. Why? Our offensive line is always letting guys through at the quarterback and a more mobile QB could help prevent sacks and make plays. Furthermore, photosynthesis is a process that converts carbon dioxide into organic compounds, especially sugars, using the energy from sunlight.[1] Photosynthesis occurs in plants, algae, and many species of Bacteria, but not in Archaea. Photosynthetic organisms are called photoautotrophs, since it allows them to create their own food. In plants, algae and cyanobacteria photosynthesis uses carbon dioxide and water, releasing oxygen as a waste product. Photosynthesis is vital for life on Earth. As well as maintaining the normal level of oxygen in the atmosphere, nearly all life either depends on it directly as a source of energy, or indirectly as the ultimate source of the energy in their food[2] (the exceptions are chemoautotrophs that live in rocks or around deep sea hydrothermal vents). The amount of energy trapped by photosynthesis is immense, approximately 100 terawatts:[3] which is about six times larger than the power consumption of human civilization.[4] As well as energy, photosynthesis is also the source of the carbon in all the organic compounds within organisms' bodies. In all, photosynthetic organisms convert around 100,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon into biomass per year.[5]

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WTF?

**DeezNutz** · 11-24-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

no ... i imagine it's just they got so tired of getting shit from all the Sanchez-ites for the last 6 months that they just want to rub it in now.

um ... you were one of those sanchez-ites, weren't ya?

Those who wanted to select Sanchez were the ones giving shit?

**The Franchise** · 11-24-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Those who wanted to select Sanchez were the ones giving shit?

Apparently.

Bunit · 11-24-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Croyle may have more talent....but he's proven that he can't play an entire season. Do you honestly think that Croyle could take the beating that Cassel has so far?

No, his ass would be knocked out. And what about talent? Croyle never did shit for us. Jamarcus Russell and Kyle Boller got a big arm like croyle and look at them.

wild1 · 11-24-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Sanchez -

Comp% - 52.1
Yards - 1791
TDs - 10
INTS - 16
Sacks - 17
Rating - 61.1

Cassel-

Comp% - 55%
Yards - 1720
TDs - 12
INT - 6
Sacks - 34
Rating - 77.9

That is striking. I knew Cassel had only been average, but I didn't realize that Sanchez had played so poorly.

Basileus777 · 11-24-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

That is striking. I knew Cassel had only been average, but I didn't realize that Sanchez had played so poorly.

Sanchez probably shouldn't even be playing right now. He's not mentally ready to be a NFL starter. He's shown flashes of being able to make plays, but he can't read defenses, panics and gets emotional under pressure pr when things aren't going right. He's in a perfect position for a rookie with a dominant running game and a good defense, but he's not ready to manage the game yet.

HotRoute · 11-24-2009, 02:39 PM

What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games

Hammock Parties · 11-24-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Sanchez probably shouldn't even be playing right now. He's not mentally ready to be a NFL starter. He's shown flashes of being able to make plays, but he can't read defenses and panics and get emotional under pressure and when things aren't going right. He's in a perfect position for a rookie with a dominant running game and a good defense, but he's not ready to manage the game yet.

He's ****ing too much New York pussy.

Basileus777 · 11-24-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He's ****ing too much New York pussy.

I'd say he's a California pussy. But yeah, that might be true. Even as a rookie, it's not a good sign when your qb looks lost and like he's about to cry every time he has a bad game. He can't control his emotions or handle the pressure right now.

Tiger's Fan · 11-24-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Those who wanted to select Sanchez were the ones giving shit?

If you mean those were the ones shitting all over Cassel daily, then yes.

And they have it coming for Sanchez' poor rookie showing. I know, I know, he's a rookie, but he's got Leinart written all over him, and Stafford is clearly a better prospect, as many suggested, on a much much worse team.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-24-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC111110

What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games

And, so does Sanchez.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Sanchez probably shouldn't even be playing right now. He's not mentally ready to be a NFL starter. He's shown flashes of being able to make plays, but he can't read defenses and panics and get emotional under pressure and when things aren't going right. He's in a perfect position for a rookie with a dominant running game and a good defense, but he's not ready to manage the game yet.

Yep. Have you watched Stafford play much? That kid is the real deal, IMO. I kinda thought Sanchez would be the better QB, and still may be, but I'm highly impressed with Stafford.

Reerun_KC · 11-24-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

no ... i imagine it's just they got so tired of getting shit from all the Sanchez-ites for the last 6 months that they just want to rub it in now.

um ... you were one of those sanchez-ites, weren't ya?

Yep, I was a Ryanite, Staffordite, Sanchezite, basically any thing other than the road already traveled ite............

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC111110

What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games

When you're sacked this often, that is going to happen.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-24-2009, 03:22 PM

Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one.

The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC.

Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick.

And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn.

Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be.

I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong.

He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?

11-24-2009, 01:27 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? I think so. Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year. They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible. What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over. I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.
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HotRoute Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $9605656	What that doesn't show is that cassel has 9 fumbles this year in 9 games
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11-24-2009, 03:22 PM	#45
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Cassel was the best choice.... not the only one, but the best one. The only franchise QB available in the draft was Stafford, and the price to get him was too high. Sanchez will be a very similar QB to Cassel down the road. They were both largely backups at USC. Cassel is taller, and was only a second round draft pick. And, Pioli knew him. He has proven to be as advertised. He is a tough, hardworking QB. And, despite coming from a great team to a poor team, he has continued to work hard, play hard, and actually give a d@mn. Sanchez will be a Matt Hasselbeck kind of QB, which is fine, but about the same as Cassel will be. I think in the end, the guys who were drooling over Sanchez will be dissapointed. And, the guys who think he is going to be a bust will be proven wrong. He will be a decent, middle of the road QB. Which is what Cassel will be. So, why spend the #3 pick on a QB with similar talent, that the GM is less familiar with?
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