Chiefs Suh over berry if he fell to us? - Page 3

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:11 AM

just wondering what everyone would do if both where still there when we draft.

id hate spending three years worth of first round draft picks on DL and still suck.

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

This seems like a complete waste of a statement. Its not as if you are Haley and are going to offend Romeo.

This is all that needs to be said. You don't pass up Suh's talent, even for Berry. Suh is everything. He is one bad mofo. I heard he was created in a lab by crossing the DNA of Darth Vader, Chuck Norris, Rocky Balboa and Jesus Christ. I could go on but the point is: if you have a chance at him you DO NOT f@ck that up.

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-30-2009, 11:09 AM

Glenn Dorsey is not Charles Rogers and Tyson Jackson is not Mike Williams. These players can work in this system. That argument doesn't hold an ounce of water.

MOhillbilly · 12-30-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

I'd like to see them go after a proven NT in FA and pick up Berry in the draft. If they did it the other way around I wouldn't be too upset as long as both positions are filled with actual NFL playmakers by September.

name a bona-fide 2 gap NT who will be available to us with no cba/cap in place.

Micjones · 12-30-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

name a bona-fide 2 gap NT who will be available to us with no cba/cap in place.

The CBA is a huge deal for us this year.

a new CBA will probably include a slotting system for the draft making our pick incredibly more valuable.

without a new CBA the FA period will probably suck which will make it doubly hard for crappy teams to acquire talent and easier on teams looking to keep their talent.

Demonpenz · 12-30-2009, 11:24 AM

I would say suh, I see a reggie white kind of inside outside passrusher game changer at the LOS

BigCatDaddy · 12-30-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

It's funny how all of a sudden winning at the line of scrimmage became less important this year after pounding that drum the last 3 or 4.

**petegz28** · 12-30-2009, 11:25 AM

Berry>Suh in our defense.

**petegz28** · 12-30-2009, 11:25 AM

We need a fat ass that can take on a double-team in the middle of our line. Suh is not that.

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

IMO if we were starting from scratch I'd pick Suh,but I'd have to go with Berry from where we stand now.Honestly,I don't think either pick will be a mistake.

Micjones · 12-30-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

IMO if we were starting from scratch I'd pick Suh,but I'd have to go with Berry from where we stand now.Honestly,I don't think either pick will be a mistake.

I agree. That'll be a GREAT problem to have come draft day.
The possibility of trading down a slot or two intrigues me though cause we could still get Berry and add another #2.

A Golden Tate/Sergio Kindle/Brandon Spikes Round 2 would be insane...

**Bane** · 12-30-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I agree. That'll be a GREAT problem to have come draft day.
The possibility of trading down a slot or two intrigues me though cause we could still get Berry and add another #2.

A Golden Tate/Sergio Kindle/Brandon Spikes Round 2 would be insane...

I cant see us trading down @ 2 or 3 but I guess it could happen.I think we pick when its our turn.Too damn far away to really see how things will change between now and then.Hell Cj Spiller may be up in the top 10 by then and shake things up.

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

We need a fat ass that can take on a double-team in the middle of our line. Suh is not that.

ratliff has been playing good at NT for Dallas, he's not either.

Ratliff 6'4" 303lbs
Suh 6'4" 300lbs

ToxSocks · 12-30-2009, 11:54 AM

I'd rather have Berry. ****, how much 1st rnd talent do we need on the D-Line? We need to spread the wealth man. we're going to have the most expensive D-line in the NFL, with only 3 guys playing on it.

And who wants to go though a 3rd straight year of "X-lineman is a bust in his first year". Im tired of hearing that shit. We'll just hear it again if we draft Suh.

But anywho....say we did draft Suh, would you be opposed to trading our two second rnd picks to move up and draft Mays?

Because if we could land Suh AND a top safety talent, well, that changes shit.

Micjones · 12-30-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I cant see us trading down @ 2 or 3 but I guess it could happen.I think we pick when its our turn.Too damn far away to really see how things will change between now and then.Hell Cj Spiller may be up in the top 10 by then and shake things up.

I think if they're both on the board we'll get at least a couple phone calls.
I wouldn't trade out of the Top 5 though.

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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2033063	I'd rather have Berry. ****, how much 1st rnd talent do we need on the D-Line? We need to spread the wealth man. we're going to have the most expensive D-line in the NFL, with only 3 guys playing on it. And who wants to go though a 3rd straight year of "X-lineman is a bust in his first year". Im tired of hearing that shit. We'll just hear it again if we draft Suh. But anywho....say we did draft Suh, would you be opposed to trading our two second rnd picks to move up and draft Mays? Because if we could land Suh AND a top safety talent, well, that changes shit. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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