NFL Draft We are not taking a QB in the first round - Page 3

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 10:32 AM

Just the official thread stating it. I'm not sure why some of you are already blowing this horn.

Just keep reading the title of this thread until it ****ing sinks in.

And I'm not even a Cassel fan, but he's going to be given more than 1 season to show he is or is not the guy.

I know all the bullshit arguments that will come forth.

"He's not a rookie, he's a seasoned vet" blah blah ****ing blah. I don't give a shit. I'm talking about reality. They gave him 60 mil. Even if Cassel never improves on this season (which I actually think he will, even if I'm not a fan), GM's don't admit to failures that quickly. Pioli will give him every chance to prove that he's right. He drafted him, he signed him to a 60 million dollar contract. Those of you you think that Pioli is going to turn right around and draft a QB with our first pick are ****ing morons. Yes, you are. It's ENTIRELY out of the question so please stop wasting discussion time with it.

Thank you and have a nice new years day.

**Bane** · 01-01-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm working it! How about this one? Charlie Weis becomes our OC, and we take Clausen in the first and Golden Tate in the second.

So no one sees bringing in Weis as a slap in Haley's face? Trust me I definitely think we need a OC,but isn't that where Haley got all his hype and cred?Just seems like a step back for Haley to me,and Weis might eat him if he cusses at him on the sideline.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-01-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i bet Golden Tate gives Haley wood ... i'm talking mahogany, maybe teak.

Ipe.

Mr. Laz · 01-01-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Ipe.

so which receiver would give Haley snakewood?

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-01-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

so which receiver would give Haley snakewood?

eryngium yuccifolium

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

They didn't give him $60mil...He got something like $28mil and a contract worth $60mil. Big difference. After 2010 we can kick him to the curb if we wish. LOL I'm not on the Clausen bandwagon really but I don't think it would be totally out of the question if Pioli and his scouts think Clausen is truely a franchise QB for us to pick him.

PhilFree

It doesn't matter if it's 60 mil or 28 mil. You're missing the big picture as a lot of people here are.

We gave up a 2nd rounder and a starters salary to Cassel JUST THIS PAST SEASON. WE AREN'T DRAFTING A QB IN FIRST ROUND.

Yes, it's out of the ****ing question. I'm not sure what it is about this that you and others aren't getting.

Fans are too MF'ing impatient. Fact is people saying dumb shit like "yes and this franchise will continue to suffer from it" have their heads shoved up their ass. These are the same reeruns that wanted to trade Dorsey this past offseason and already declared him a bust. Even if we did draft a QB if he wasn't playing like Manning by the end of the season they'd just declare him another bust.

And posting up highlights of college QB's throws is so galactically stupid it's hard to comprehend. Ryan Leaf has some bad ass college highlights too. Who gives a ****? In college guys are open by 5-10 yards. In the NFL guys are almost never that open. So it's irrelevant.

Chiefshrink · 01-01-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

It doesn't matter if it's 60 mil or 28 mil. You're missing the big picture as a lot of people here are.

We gave up a 2nd rounder and a starters salary to Cassel JUST THIS PAST SEASON. WE AREN'T DRAFTING A QB IN FIRST ROUND.

Yes, it's out of the ****ing question. I'm not sure what it is about this that you and others aren't getting.

Fans are too MF'ing impatient. Fact is people saying dumb shit like "yes and this franchise will continue to suffer from it" have their heads shoved up their ass. These are the same reeruns that wanted to trade Dorsey this past offseason and already declared him a bust. Even if we did draft a QB if he wasn't playing like Manning by the end of the season they'd just declare him another bust.

And posting up highlights of college QB's throws is so galactically stupid it's hard to comprehend. Ryan Leaf has some bad ass college highlights too. Who gives a ****? In college guys are open by 5-10 yards. In the NFL guys are almost never that open. So it's irrelevant.

Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

RustShack · 01-01-2010, 12:12 PM

Just like the Chargers aren't drafting Philip Rivers.

Coogs · 01-01-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

Yes I do. I would take Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over Cassel. And those two are nearly identical in every way as far as their career goes. Both have shitty O-lines. Rodgers>>>>>>Cassel

And I didn't see the Jets/Colts game, but IIRC, someone said the Colts O-line looked like swiss cheese whitout Manning at the controls.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Just like the Chargers aren't drafting Philip Rivers.

Talk about comparing an apples and orange scenario. They didn't know if Brees would even be playing the following season. So barring some kind of career ending injury to Cassel this weekend, we aren't taking a QB in the first round, if at all.

Second, Brees was not drafted by AJ Smith. So do your homework before posting some this stupid.

DaWolf · 01-01-2010, 12:16 PM

The Guardian is essentially saying that if Carl can give Elvis Grbac 4 years (and offer him an extension to boot, which he turned down which led to trading for Trent Green), while dumping what turned out to be the league MVP for him, then Pioli is going to give Cassel another year...

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Yes I do. I would take Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over Cassel. And those two are nearly identical in every way as far as their career goes. Both have shitty O-lines. Rodgers>>>>>>Cassel

And it's funny but Cassel put up great numbers last year when he had WR's that didn't drop the ball didn't he?

Again, I'm no Cassel fan, but anyone saying he sucks because of this season went full reerun.

milkman · 01-01-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

The Guardian is essentially saying that if Carl can give Elvis Grbac 4 years (and offer him an extension to boot, which he turned down which led to trading for Trent Green), while dumping what turned out to be the league MVP for him, then Pioli is going to give Cassel another year...

Sort of.

I'm saying that Pioli traded a 2nd rounder for him and gave him "28 million" just this past offseason. GM's, EVEN GOOD ONES, generally are in no hurry to admit a mistake or give up on a guy too soon. Cassel has shown that he CAN play at a high level, he just didn't behind a make shit line and throwing to WR's with concrete hands.

Coogs · 01-01-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

He has the last few weeks. The first 3/4ths of the season? Not so much.

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TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6315299	We are not taking a QB in the first round Just the official thread stating it. I'm not sure why some of you are already blowing this horn. Just keep reading the title of this thread until it **ing sinks in. And I'm not even a Cassel fan, but he's going to be given more than 1 season to show he is or is not the guy. I know all the bullshit arguments that will come forth. "He's not a rookie, he's a seasoned vet" blah blah ing blah. I don't give a shit. I'm talking about reality. They gave him 60 mil. Even if Cassel never improves on this season (which I actually think he will, even if I'm not a fan), GM's don't admit to failures that quickly. Pioli will give him every chance to prove that he's right. He drafted him, he signed him to a 60 million dollar contract. Those of you you think that Pioli is going to turn right around and draft a QB with our first pick are **ing morons. Yes, you are. It's ENTIRELY out of the question so please stop wasting discussion time with it. Thank you and have a nice new years day.
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	The Guardian is essentially saying that if Carl can give Elvis Grbac 4 years (and offer him an extension to boot, which he turned down which led to trading for Trent Green), while dumping what turned out to be the league MVP for him, then Pioli is going to give Cassel another year...
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