Chiefs Quest for a new OC. - Page 3

Micjones · 06:07 PM

2010 brings some excitement with it considering all of the smoke these 'Crennel to KC' rumors we've been hearing lately. The organization would be remiss not to bring in an equally strong Offensive Coordinator to relieve Haley of his duties.

Who might be available for the job in the off-season?

Charlie Weis, La Canfora seems to think KC will be his eventual landing spot but this one hasn't been corroborated by as many sources. In fact, I think he's currently the only source speculating that this will happen. Weis would be particularly beneficial to the growth of our 60-million-dollar man Matt Cassel. Can he and Pioli play nice?

Rob Chudzinski, Currently an assistant head coach for the Bolts. He had a hand in the Top 10 offense that the Browns fielded in 2007. Derek Anderson, Kellen Winslow, Jr. and Braylon Edwards all posted their best single-season efforts with him at the playcalling helm. He's coached (and helped) some uber-talented TE's over the years.

Who else is out there?

I thought maybe Kyle Shanahan would shake loose from Houston, but it looks like Kubiak's going to retain his job.

...discuss.

Frankie · 01-04-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

My thing is will the new OC run the same offense Haley has been running? Same terminology and all? I think it would make for another transition period which I think would be bad for our players at this point if we changed schemes. I think the O line is getting "it" and Charles has "it". If Cassel's gonna get "it" changing the offense will only hender that IMO.

PhilFree

So are you suggesting that Haley should continue being his own OC?

2bikemike · 01-04-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I think well do waht we did this year and double our wins. 8 wins unless we fall prey to injury.

PhilFree

I'm all for doubling our win total for the next 2 years. Win 8 next year and 16 the year after. And those 16 don't have to be in the regular season either. In fact I would prefer that they weren't.

One can hope and dream. It seems thats all we have as Chief fans.

philfree · 01-04-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

So are you suggesting that Haley should continue being his own OC?

No. I'm saying it will suck for all these guys to have to learn a new offense or new terminology after actually making some progess late in the season. What offesne does Haley run? And does someone like Weis run a similar offense? Maybe Haley can find an OC to run his offense for him?

PhilFree

**Easy 6** · 01-04-2010, 10:56 PM

I think Weis would be a relatively seemless transition, they are familiar with each other & it would probably be a very collaborative process, with Haleys word being the final say-so.

Haley loves offense too much to just hand over the reins completely IMO, but Weis would give him the freedom to concentrate more on the big picture during the week & in-game.

HotRoute · 01-04-2010, 10:57 PM

im honestly starting to think we might end up promoting someone from within to OC next yr. the offense is just starting to click, and to start fresh albeit at the right time (during the offseason & not in the preseason) would probably set the offense back shich is not what we need again

Frankie · 01-04-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

No. I'm saying it will suck for all these guys to have to learn a new offense or new terminology after actually making some progess late in the season. What offesne does Haley run? And does someone like Weis run a similar offense? Maybe Haley can find an OC to run his offense for him?

PhilFree

Gotcha.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

We lost 6 game this year by 7 points or less. Baltimore we aborted in the last few minutes...I don't think winning 10 games next year is absurd to predict. I, however, think 8 games is more realistic.

Last year, it was eight games by seven points or less.

Make up your mind!

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I don't understand why anyone would look at a future NFL schedule and try to predict wins and losses for any team. It's to the point where the only thing you can count on is a few likely losses and and whole lot of uncertainty.

I picked the Chiefs to win 4 games this season and lose 12 back in August.

Today, I received a $500 payment via Paypal for said prediction.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I'm not getting to 10. San Fran, Buffalo, Oakland x 2, St Louis & Seattle with one win against Denver.

7 wins is my guess. Maybe we beat Jacksonville, but I wouldn't count on it.

San Fran?

With their run game?

Ouch.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

An easier schedule (on paper) and a new defensive coordinator alone won't magically transform the Chiefs into a 10 win team.

Fat Scott is actually going to have to participate in free agency this offseason (and by "participate" I mean more than just signing 36 year old WRs).

Not.

Gonna.

Happen.

Keep up.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I disagree. How can you say Oakland will be better when hiring yet another coach? How will Buffalo be imrpoved with questions at QB? Denver won't be a better team without Marshall. So theres ATLEAST 6 wins on the schedule.

Oakland was a 10 win team, minimum, with Gradkowski at the helm.

Minimum.

That team is sooooooooooo loaded at talent on defense and and very good on offense.

Those receivers are bad ass and the running game should have been better. It was under-utilized (much like the Chiefs).

Sam Hall · 01-04-2010, 11:35 PM

Possible home wins:

Denver (we just beat them at Denver)
Oakland (we have to beat them at Arrowhead some time)
Jacksonville
San Francisco
Buffalo (it's about time)

Possible road wins:

Denver (we just pulled it off)
Oakland
St. Louis
Seattle
Cleveland

We have just about the easiest schedule we could ask for.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

No. I'm saying it will suck for all these guys to have to learn a new offense or new terminology after actually making some progess late in the season. What offesne does Haley run? And does someone like Weis run a similar offense? Maybe Haley can find an OC to run his offense for him?

PhilFree

Haley needs to find someone well versed in the Erhardt-Perkins offense.

Weis would be a fantastic choice IMO.

Gailey knew it as well, which made it an even more shocking move when he was fired.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Possible home wins:

Denver (we just beat them at Denver)
Oakland (we have to beat them at Arrowhead some time)
Jacksonville
San Francisco
Buffalo (it's about time)

Possible road wins:

Denver (we just pulled it off)
Oakland
St. Louis
Seattle
Cleveland

We have just about the easiest schedule we could ask for.

Folly.

People say this EVERY year.

We need to see an significant upgrade in coaching and talent before predicting wins.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC111110

im honestly starting to think we might end up promoting someone from within to OC next yr. the offense is just starting to click, and to start fresh albeit at the right time (during the offseason & not in the preseason) would probably set the offense back shich is not what we need again

Nope.

Carthon is a major bust at OC.

They fired and replaced the WR coach.

Bill Muir?

It'll need to be someone from outside the organization.

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