NFL Draft Schefter: Steelers Contacting Teams to Trade Big Ben for Top 10 pick - Page 3

**jAZ** · 04-21-2010, 09:58 AM

Pittsburgh has begun contacting teams to trade Ben Roethlisberger for a top 10 pick. At least one team considering it. Story far from done.

**The Franchise** · 04-21-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

QBs who can actually play in the NFL.

Well that rules out Kansas and Mizzou.

-King- · 04-21-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief

Seriously, you are on a football BB. Did you happen to watch either of his SB victories? The drive against the Cardinals and the winning TD pass didn't impress you???

He is kind of a fat idiot (motorcycle incident + women issues), but you cannot argue against his production on the field, especially the postseason.

Yeah he's had some great plays. But he's also had ones that make you say WTF? He's a great qb, but not top tier.
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**buddha** · 04-21-2010, 10:33 AM

Neither have been any worse than Notre Dame post Montana.

-King- · 04-21-2010, 10:35 AM

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Schaub? I guess we can safely ignore your opinions about QBs then.

Sure.
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**The Franchise** · 04-21-2010, 10:35 AM

Yep....ND sure sucks.

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Notre Dame has the 3rd highest winning percentage in NCAA history (.736), behind only Michigan and the Texas Longhorns (.737).

As of the end of the 2009 football season, Notre Dame has the 3rd most wins in NCAA history (837), trailing only Michigan (877) and Texas (845). Notre Dame also has the fewest losses of any program (291) (minimum 800 games played).

Notre Dame has 102 winning seasons in 121 years of football, and only 13 losing seasons.

The football program is tied with USC for most Heisman trophy winners at seven (Ohio State has seven Heisman trophies that were won by six players).

Notre Dame has produced more All-Americans (99), consensus All-Americans (80) and unanimous All-Americans (31) in football than any other college program.

Notre Dame is represented by 48 players and coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame, the most of any university.

Ten former players are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, second only to USC(11). Notre Dame has produced the largest number of players to go on to play in the National Football League of any program in the country. As of the 2008 NFL draft, 463 players have been drafted.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-21-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.

Raiders are probably the team that's interested.
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The dumbassery is strong with this one...

**buddha** · 04-21-2010, 10:39 AM

Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

**Rain Man** · 04-21-2010, 10:39 AM

It's really, really tempting, but he'll be 29 by the time he starts his first full season with us.

Even with that, it's really, really tempting. The key would be whether a half-dozen games off will make him grow up or will make him go even more immature. I'd lean more toward assuming it'll make him grow up, but either way a suspension will have an impact on him, and the downside risk would be bad.

5 years of a top-notch quarterback for a first-round pick probably isn't horrible value, though. If we could make it conditional somehow, I'd probably do it.

**The Franchise** · 04-21-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha

Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

I'd rather have Clausen or Quinn than ****ing Matt Cassel.

Sure-Oz · 04-21-2010, 10:40 AM

I'd take him but im not sure for the #5, but he is a damn good QB

Dante84 · 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM

He would be a perfect fit with the Raiders, and I think that's what's going to happen.

**notorious** · 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM

Let's avoid getting a Franchise QB, God forbid we might actually win something.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-21-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yep....ND sure sucks.

Sorry, but that program hasn't been relevant since the 90s

**The Bad Guy** · 04-21-2010, 10:42 AM

I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Sure-Oz · 04-21-2010, 10:43 AM

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I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Micheal Smith seems to think Okung will be available to us and we would take him, i just want this draft to start already.

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buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level. You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.
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