Life GD Drunk Drivers - Page 3

**pr_capone** · 07-05-2010, 02:52 AM

Had one plow through my front lawn around 3:10 this morning. I hoped out of bed and grabbed my wallet & phone and went off after them. Found the car in an apartment complex parking lot torn to shreds.

Called 911, gave the tag number, description of driver, and 40 minutes later not a cop to be found anywhere.

*pics of damage soon to follow

BWillie · 07-05-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

The problem with that is if your super duper reinforced immovable mailbox caused an injury in any way, you could be held liable. I was going to do something similar when my mother in law was getting her mailbox ran down at the rate of once per year but was advised not to. So instead I bought a small boulder to set next to it, one with a nice sharp point on the top. I figured it was small enough that it wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would at least take out a tire if someone decided to run it down. It's been six years since I did it and that mailbox is still standing. Although it didn't stop someone from crashing into her house a couple years later.

No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.

**Saul Good** · 07-05-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.

The way I understand it is that you can be liable if you do it to stop people from smashing it with a bat or something. The logic is that you reasonably expected someone to drive by and smash your mailbox, you are liable if they sustain serious physical harm from hitting it after it's been filled with concrete. Even though they were committing a crime, you are still going to pay a pretty stiff price.

It's like someone who has their lunch stolen from the office fridge a few times and them makes a rat poison sandwich. If someone steals your lunch and dies from eating rat poison, you're going to jail.

**Bugeater** · 07-05-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.

I don't care if there's a legal precedent or not, I wouldn't take the chance. There was an issue here in Omaha a few years back where a young driver lost control of their Jeep, flipped it over a curb, smashed into a illegally (city ordinance) constructed brick mailbox and was killed. Of course, there was a big hubbub regarding it and I know a lawsuit was filed, the argument being that even though the driver was driving recklessly, they wouldn't have been killed by a standard one. With that said, I don't recall ever hearing the outcome of it, my guess is it was probably settled out of court.

But regardless of the outcome, why would you risk the hassle and expense of a lawsuit over a fugging mailbox? You need to choose your battles in life wisely, and that one is not worth fighting.

Valiant · 07-05-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

The problem with that is if your super duper reinforced immovable mailbox caused an injury in any way, you could be held liable. I was going to do something similar when my mother in law was getting her mailbox ran down at the rate of once per year but was advised not to. So instead I bought a small boulder to set next to it, one with a nice sharp point on the top. I figured it was small enough that it wouldn't hurt anyone, but it would at least take out a tire if someone decided to run it down. It's been six years since I did it and that mailbox is still standing. Although it didn't stop someone from crashing into her house a couple years later.

Yeah I read a story somewhere about kids smashing mailboxes with bats while they drove around.. Got a house multiple times, so the owner filed it up with cement.. Kid broke their arm, they sued the guy and won..

Somehow those kids did not get any felony charges for destroying government property..

teedubya · 07-05-2010, 03:16 PM

Dont Drink and Drive... also, don't smoke pot and drive that often.

Chief Roundup · 07-05-2010, 05:05 PM

I have heard that the mail is considered government property not the mailbox. Also heard that it could only be considered that if mail was in the mailbox.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-05-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I have heard that the mail is considered government property not the mailbox. Also heard that it could only be considered that if mail was in the mailbox.

I've always heard that once a mailbox is put up and the carrier puts mail in it, its property of the Feds. Not sure how much truth to that there is...

**kysirsoze** · 07-05-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

No. You aren't going to be liable if you have a super duper reinforced immovable mailbox. Unless they set it in concrete onto the street I don't see how that could be the case. You can reinforce your mailbox however the hell you want to. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see some case law that found someone was somewhat at fault for somebody's injury because someone went off the road and hit a highly reinforced mailbox.

It could also be that people often post a their mailbox by the street. Often the property line stops well before the street. Not sure if this is a factor or not.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-05-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Yeah I read a story somewhere about kids smashing mailboxes with bats while they drove around.. Got a house multiple times, so the owner filed it up with cement.. Kid broke their arm, they sued the guy and won..

This is ****ing BS! Further proof that our justice system is ****ed.

LaChapelle · 07-05-2010, 05:27 PM

This one time I was driving down 71, between Nevada and Carthage. Had passed Milo, Sheldon and near Irwin. Almost to Lamar Lamar Hieghts area. When this drunk came out of nowhere. Probably one of those Iantha or Oakton hicks.

But I made my way down near Jasper and Carytown okay.
Shit, forgot about Kenoma. That's near Golden City and Lockwood.

**Saul Good** · 07-05-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

This is ****ing BS! Further proof that our justice system is ****ed.

How so? If he knows that someone's going to smash his mailbox, and he sets it up in such a way that it causes serious physical damage to that person, he has committed a crime.

It's the same thing with my stolen lunch analogy. If you know that someone is stealing your lunch out of the break room fridge, if you lace your sandwich with rat poison and another person steals and eats it, you go to jail.

**Bugeater** · 07-05-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

This is ****ing BS! Further proof that our justice system is ****ed.

It's about intent, and it's a slam dunk case if he filled the mailbox itself with cement. He knew his mailbox was probably going to get hit again, and did something knowing full well it had the potential to cause injury to who was doing it.

Pablo · 07-05-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

It's about intent, and it's a slam dunk case if he filled the mailbox itself with cement. He knew his mailbox was probably going to get hit again, and did something knowing full well it had the potential to cause injury to who was doing it.

Yeah, and really, is any piece of personal property worth seriously injuring or killing somebody over?

If someone's in your home or threatening you physically it's a whole different ballgame; but protecting your mailbox or yard "at all costs" is ****ing ignorant.

**Bugeater** · 07-05-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Yeah, and really, is any piece of personal property worth seriously injuring or killing somebody over?

Well, in some situations where it's an ongoing problem, there certainly would be some poetic justice in the perpetrator suffering some kind of injury. But unfortunately our justice system is run by lawyers, not poets.

**RNR** · 07-05-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Had one plow through my front lawn around 3:10 this morning. I hoped out of bed and grabbed my wallet & phone and went off after them. Found the car in an apartment complex parking lot torn to shreds.

Called 911, gave the tag number, description of driver, and 40 minutes later not a cop to be found anywhere.

*pics of damage soon to follow

We have different reactions, I would have grabbed my gun

07-05-2010, 02:52 AM
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07-05-2010, 05:27 PM	#40
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	This one time I was driving down 71, between Nevada and Carthage. Had passed Milo, Sheldon and near Irwin. Almost to Lamar Lamar Hieghts area. When this drunk came out of nowhere. Probably one of those Iantha or Oakton hicks. But I made my way down near Jasper and Carytown okay. Shit, forgot about Kenoma. That's near Golden City and Lockwood.
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