Chiefs How do you attack the 49'rs if you are calling the plays? - Page 3

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 08:25 PM

I think the dink and dunk is not going to work this game. I forget the guy's name but the bad-ass LB SF has is going to be all over Moeki like stink on shit in an alley.

The WR's are going to have to show up and Cassel is going to have to hit them. The problem is I don't think our O-line can contain the pass rush this game. This is arguably the best defense we have faced so far this year.

The sideways crap isn't going to work. 3 step drops are going to have to be on time and crisp cause Cassel is not going to have time to be Cassel in the pocket on Sunday. We are going to have to attack with the ground game running behind Waters and Albert. I would stay away from one of the best LB's in football.

I think this could be a huge game for Charles against an overagressive defense. If we can get him past the first guy I think there will be a lot of holes for him to pick away. Jones and the up the gut game is probably not the choice for this game, BUT if that works, then pound it. If we can run it up the gut against these guys would should really be able to do whatever we want.

Again though, I think Bowe, Chambers and McCluster are going to have to be the ones to win this on offense on Sunday. The PA Pass should be there early as teams know rushing is our strength and the 9'rs are very aggressive in the pass rush.

I hate to say it but I think on Sunday you have to call Cassel's # a lot

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'd attack them with screens, draws, and a shit load of playaction because those safeties suck and the linebackers are insanely aggressive.

Cassel has to really start selling the PA fake. His fakes are so ****ing terrible.

You know, I said that to my wife during the game. He needs to watch some film on Green and Deberg on how to do a PA fake. Stick that ****ing ball in the RB's stomach. Sell that shit. Deberg was the master at doing that.

**petegz28** · 09-23-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

They'll do the same thing they did the first two weeks: come out trying to throw it deep. Then after a couple of series rife with QB pressure and incompletions, they'll switch from 3-and-out passing to 3-and-out rushing.

The bootleg should be open if their LB's are really being agressive.

KCBOSS1 · 09-23-2010, 09:18 PM

You beat SF by paying our center a bonus if he can get his grip on Willis' balls. That guy's got to be taken out and our guy doesn't seem to mind levelizing the playing field with a death grip on scrotum.

**Iowanian** · 09-23-2010, 10:19 PM

If they are blitzing the middle like they did NO, I hit them with screens and draws and PA passes.

It's going to be difficult to run on their front 7 but you have to do it enough. We have to run and they're better at stopping it....Their secondary is vulnerable, its just too bad we don't have much to expose them with.

I don't expect much out of the running game numbers but see bigger numbers in the passing game.

Defensively, I key on Gore and Davis, and assume the corners can handle the wrs.

Wallcrawler · 09-24-2010, 12:15 AM

With an aggressive defense like they have, I would be running some counters and cutbacks in the running game. Something to get them attacking and overpursuing and we break some gains going the other way.

I would also employ some screen passes. I dont know why we havent seen too many from the Chiefs, the O-Line is capable and getting Charles or McCluster out in space with blockers out front is a scary concept for ANY defense.

Lastly, Id pass more on first and second downs. If they constantly go Run on first and second down Cassel is going down hard and hes going to throw some ducks that are just begging to get picked off. The Chiefs cannot be predictable on offense. If that 49er defense knows its a pass, I dont think any good can come from it.

The more the Chiefs can keep them guessing and off balance, the better chance they have to win.

**Bowser** · 09-24-2010, 12:25 AM

Attack the seams with Chambers and Moeaki, send Bowe on the deep slant and corner routes,and hit the short stuff to Charles and McCluster. Take advantage of their aggressiveness on defense. Screens and draws. Maybe this week we'll see a flea flicker or halfback pass, and I practically guarantee we will see a reverse or two (ABSOLUTELY guarantee we will see that fake reverse crap that nobody ever falls for).

**KcMizzou** · 09-24-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

(ABSOLUTELY guarantee we will see that fake reverse crap that nobody ever falls for).

Let's not fake it this time.

-King- · 09-24-2010, 12:49 AM

First, we fake right...then we fake left. Then we fake faking right and actually fake faking left. Then we fake right again only to then fake left...

**KcMizzou** · 09-24-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

First, we fake right...then we fake left. Then we fake faking right and actually fake faking left. Then we fake right again only to then fake left...

Brilliant!

keg in kc · 09-24-2010, 12:56 AM

The question should really be "how do you make matt cassel accurate against the 49ers if you're calling the plays?" Because that's what will ultimately make the most difference. It doesn't matter what plays are called if he's air mailing or gopher-balling or just-a-bit-outside-ing his throws. That would I think make the most difference for the offense, more than Charles or McCluster touching the ball more, more than misdirecting the niners defense. And maybe the way you do that is the same way you'd do it with a college QB, by setting up screens and "easy" passing plays, rather than having him throw his shoulder out trying to get it 20 yards downfield to Bowe. Get him in rhythm, move the chains, then start going outside.

**Buck** · 09-24-2010, 12:57 AM

49'rs is the same amount of characters as 49ers.
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**kysirsoze** · 09-24-2010, 01:08 AM

If Patrick Willis is all over Moeaki that means he's not ass-raping Cassel in the backfield. That's a trade off I can live with.

**kysirsoze** · 09-24-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

If Patrick Willis is all over Moeaki that means he's not ass-raping Cassel in the backfield. That's a trade off I can live with.

Although, with Cassel's decision time, he can probably do both. Cover Moeaki, wait for Matt's first pump-fake, then go in for the kill and get there at about pump number 5.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-24-2010, 03:12 AM

inb4 matriculate the ball down the field

Saccopoo · 09-24-2010, 03:52 AM

How I attack them is that I tell those Friscoites that there is a big hairy set of man nuts on the other end of the rope and get them all rushing to pull them in. Then run Jamaal Charles around the other side when they are occupied.

Talk about your offensive lines...

09-23-2010, 08:25 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1105873	How do you attack the 49'rs if you are calling the plays? I think the dink and dunk is not going to work this game. I forget the guy's name but the bad-ass LB SF has is going to be all over Moeki like stink on shit in an alley. The WR's are going to have to show up and Cassel is going to have to hit them. The problem is I don't think our O-line can contain the pass rush this game. This is arguably the best defense we have faced so far this year. The sideways crap isn't going to work. 3 step drops are going to have to be on time and crisp cause Cassel is not going to have time to be Cassel in the pocket on Sunday. We are going to have to attack with the ground game running behind Waters and Albert. I would stay away from one of the best LB's in football. I think this could be a huge game for Charles against an overagressive defense. If we can get him past the first guy I think there will be a lot of holes for him to pick away. Jones and the up the gut game is probably not the choice for this game, BUT if that works, then pound it. If we can run it up the gut against these guys would should really be able to do whatever we want. Again though, I think Bowe, Chambers and McCluster are going to have to be the ones to win this on offense on Sunday. The PA Pass should be there early as teams know rushing is our strength and the 9'rs are very aggressive in the pass rush. I hate to say it but I think on Sunday you have to call Cassel's # a lot
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09-23-2010, 09:18 PM	#33
KCBOSS1 RAISE EM RIGHT Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arkansas Casino cash: $10005366	You beat SF by paying our center a bonus if he can get his grip on Willis' balls. That guy's got to be taken out and our guy doesn't seem to mind levelizing the playing field with a death grip on scrotum.
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09-23-2010, 10:19 PM	#34
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1668454	If they are blitzing the middle like they did NO, I hit them with screens and draws and PA passes. It's going to be difficult to run on their front 7 but you have to do it enough. We have to run and they're better at stopping it....Their secondary is vulnerable, its just too bad we don't have much to expose them with. I don't expect much out of the running game numbers but see bigger numbers in the passing game. Defensively, I key on Gore and Davis, and assume the corners can handle the wrs.
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09-24-2010, 12:25 AM	#36
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-208384	Attack the seams with Chambers and Moeaki, send Bowe on the deep slant and corner routes,and hit the short stuff to Charles and McCluster. Take advantage of their aggressiveness on defense. Screens and draws. Maybe this week we'll see a flea flicker or halfback pass, and I practically guarantee we will see a reverse or two (ABSOLUTELY guarantee we will see that fake reverse crap that nobody ever falls for).
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09-24-2010, 12:56 AM	#40
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	The question should really be "how do you make matt cassel accurate against the 49ers if you're calling the plays?" Because that's what will ultimately make the most difference. It doesn't matter what plays are called if he's air mailing or gopher-balling or just-a-bit-outside-ing his throws. That would I think make the most difference for the offense, more than Charles or McCluster touching the ball more, more than misdirecting the niners defense. And maybe the way you do that is the same way you'd do it with a college QB, by setting up screens and "easy" passing plays, rather than having him throw his shoulder out trying to get it 20 yards downfield to Bowe. Get him in rhythm, move the chains, then start going outside.
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09-24-2010, 12:57 AM	#41
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09-24-2010, 01:08 AM	#42
kysirsoze SNAP THE ****ING BALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $66946	If Patrick Willis is all over Moeaki that means he's not ass-raping Cassel in the backfield. That's a trade off I can live with.
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09-24-2010, 03:12 AM	#44
Ming the Merciless Emporer of Mongo Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Milky Way Casino cash: $-642444	inb4 matriculate the ball down the field
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09-24-2010, 03:52 AM	#45
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	How I attack them is that I tell those Friscoites that there is a big hairy set of man nuts on the other end of the rope and get them all rushing to pull them in. Then run Jamaal Charles around the other side when they are occupied. Talk about your offensive lines...
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