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**Rain Man** · 09-02-2011, 08:36 AM

....who appears to be better than expected, and who is not as good as expected?

I've only been able to see two games, one of which was on a tiny computer feed, so it's a little hard to see sometimes, but here's what I'm seeing.

Better than expected:

Belcher
Houston
Sheffield
D. Johnson
Bowe
Gregg

Not as good as expected:

Hudson
Baldwin (bad at fighting)
Albert
Richardson
Gaither

Soooo.....nod-inducing linebackers, disappointing offensive tackles is what I'm seeing.

O.city · 09-02-2011, 09:40 AM

I think a few things were pretty obvious last night:

Gaither was better at RT than Richardson by a landslide.

Cassel, when given time and is mechanically sound, threw the ball pretty well.

Charles needs to hang on to the ball.

Jackson isn't as bad as everyone is letting on.

TEX · 09-02-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we made a mistake letting Smith go and depending on Jackson...guy is a total puss

This.
He either does nothing or gets manhandled. One thing he does not do is make plays or cause plays to be made around him.

Chiefnj2 · 09-02-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I thought the offensive line looked the best it has in all four games of the preseason last night. Even against the packers one's.

FWIW, the Pack sat 5 defensive starters.

patteeu · 09-02-2011, 09:51 AM

Charles and Jones should both probably be on the worse than expected list. Neither have done anything to brag about this preseason and Charles has been playing with crisco on his fingers.

I'd add McClain too, but I may have expected more out of him than most people so ymmv.

**The Franchise** · 09-02-2011, 09:52 AM

I hope Bailey starts instead of Tyson Jackson.

**the Talking Can** · 09-02-2011, 09:53 AM

gordon gets an arrow up

i had no idea who that guy was, but he has looked good against 2nd stringers and will hopefully take Torblowbo's job

ToxSocks · 09-02-2011, 09:56 AM

Tyson Jackson has not been that bad. Maybe he was last night, I don't know, but he had a really good game vs STL and has had a strong preaseason thus far. Just sounds like people are piling on.

Buckweath · 09-02-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I hope Bailey starts instead of Tyson Jackson.

OK, the PAckers put 130 yards on our defense and Tyson Jackson was that bad? NO. I didn't look at him much but he looked at the very least decent when I watched him. On one play in the second half he perfectly held his ground and tackled the RB for a 1 or 2 yard gain. It was perfectly was is expected of him to do.

**SAUTO** · 09-02-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Others...

Better than expected:

Powe
McCluster
Dick Stanzi
Bailey
Gales

Not as good as expected:

OLine(all of em)
Breaston(not much opportunity)
Flowers
Cassel
Studebaker

i thought flowers made some good plays last night

ToxSocks · 09-02-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

OK, the PAckers put 130 yards on our defense and Tyson Jackson was that bad? NO. I didn't look at him much but he looked at the very least decent when I watched him. On one play in the second half he perfectly held his ground and tackled the RB for a 1 or 2 yard gain. It was perfectly was is expected of him to do.

Welcome to ChiefsPlanet where we pile on players based on one sub par game.

Im putting Tyson Jackson down as a guy who has taken a step forward this offseason. Is he perfect? No. Is he where we want him to be right now? Probably not. But he's a helluva lot better then he looked last preseason.

**the Talking Can** · 09-02-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Tyson Jackson has not been that bad. Maybe he was last night, I don't know, but he had a really good game vs STL and has had a strong preaseason thus far. Just sounds like people are piling on.

i think people just set the bar low for him...if he doesn't fall down people clap

**The Franchise** · 09-02-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

OK, the PAckers put 130 yards on our defense and Tyson Jackson was that bad? NO. I didn't look at him much but he looked at the very least decent when I watched him. On one play in the second half he perfectly held his ground and tackled the RB for a 1 or 2 yard gain. It was perfectly was is expected of him to do.

That's a lot of perfectly.

Chris Meck · 09-02-2011, 10:05 AM

better:

Houston. Wow.
Powe-6th round!?
Gregg-looks to have a lot left in the tank. Can he keep it up?
Stanzi-shows the skills and pocket awareness. I like the potential
Hudson-looks like a player.

worse:
Studebaker. Can you PLEASE KEEP OUTSIDE CONTAINMENT JUST ONCE? IT"S YOUR JOB.
Breaston-Is it you, or just Cassel and Palko?
B. Richardson-lot of mental mistakes. At some point you have to get past this.
most all 2nd and 3rd stringers-we really have very little depth anywhere.

ToxSocks · 09-02-2011, 10:08 AM

If I had to pick a guy who has regressed this season, I'd have to take Barry Richardson. He went from OK/BAD to BAD/Terrible.

How was JC aside from the fumbles? Is he still running like JC?

**The Franchise** · 09-02-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

If I had to pick a guy who has regressed this season, I'd have to take Barry Richardson. He went from OK/BAD to BAD/Terrible.

How was JC aside from the fumbles? Is he still running like JC?

I can't tell if JC isn't running like last year because of the offensive line or the offensive gameplan. I realize that he hasn't touched the ball that many times this preseason....but damn.

09-02-2011, 08:36 AM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-472449 VARSITY	To those of you who have watched the preseason games.... ....who appears to be better than expected, and who is not as good as expected? I've only been able to see two games, one of which was on a tiny computer feed, so it's a little hard to see sometimes, but here's what I'm seeing. Better than expected: Belcher Houston Sheffield D. Johnson Bowe Gregg Not as good as expected: Hudson Baldwin (bad at fighting) Albert Richardson Gaither Soooo.....nod-inducing linebackers, disappointing offensive tackles is what I'm seeing.
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09-02-2011, 09:40 AM	#31
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	I think a few things were pretty obvious last night: Gaither was better at RT than Richardson by a landslide. Cassel, when given time and is mechanically sound, threw the ball pretty well. Charles needs to hang on to the ball. Jackson isn't as bad as everyone is letting on.
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09-02-2011, 09:51 AM	#34
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	Charles and Jones should both probably be on the worse than expected list. Neither have done anything to brag about this preseason and Charles has been playing with crisco on his fingers. I'd add McClain too, but I may have expected more out of him than most people so ymmv. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2123063	Tyson Jackson has not been that bad. Maybe he was last night, I don't know, but he had a really good game vs STL and has had a strong preaseason thus far. Just sounds like people are piling on. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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09-02-2011, 10:05 AM	#43
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1165090	better: Houston. Wow. Powe-6th round!? Gregg-looks to have a lot left in the tank. Can he keep it up? Stanzi-shows the skills and pocket awareness. I like the potential Hudson-looks like a player. worse: Studebaker. Can you PLEASE KEEP OUTSIDE CONTAINMENT JUST ONCE? IT"S YOUR JOB. Breaston-Is it you, or just Cassel and Palko? B. Richardson-lot of mental mistakes. At some point you have to get past this. most all 2nd and 3rd stringers-we really have very little depth anywhere.
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09-02-2011, 10:08 AM	#44
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2123063	If I had to pick a guy who has regressed this season, I'd have to take Barry Richardson. He went from OK/BAD to BAD/Terrible. How was JC aside from the fumbles? Is he still running like JC? __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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