Chiefs Bill Williamson: What Matt Cassel's injury means - Page 3

Okie_Apparition · 11-14-2011, 09:16 PM

ESPN 7:36pm EST

Let’s look at the significant issues surrounding the Kansas City Chiefs after the news that quarterback Matt Cassel may be out for the rest of the season with a hand injury. He will require surgery and will, at least, miss several games:

What is Cassel’s future? I highly doubt we’ve seen the last of Cassel in Kansas City. He has been uneven, but the Chiefs appear to be committed to him at least for the short term. I expect Cassel to be the Chiefs’ starter in 2012.

The Chiefs’ season is likely over: This is not the time to lose your starting quarterback. After back-to-back home losses to Miami and Denver, the Chiefs are now 4-5 and enter a five-game stretch that features five 2010 playoff teams. Kansas City is struggling it is unlikely it will be able to withstand this tough stretch and stay in the AFC West race.

How much can one team take? Cassel’s injury is just another significant blow to this team. The Chiefs already lost star running back Jamaal Charles, star safety Eric Berry, and standout tight end Tony Moeaki to season-ending knee injuries. All of those injuries happened in September. These are the core players of this team.

Haley deserves a pass: There has been speculation throughout the season that Kansas City coach Todd Haley could be on the hot seat. But Cassel’s injury and the earlier major injuries have severely changed this team. The Chiefs’ record may not be impressive when the season is completed, but they are making strides, and Haley deserves to come back in 2012 with his full roster.

What should we expect from Tyler Palko? The left-handed quarterback is very inexperienced. Palko, 28, has thrown just 13 passes in the regular season since entering the NFL in 2007. He completed five of six attempts Sunday when he spelled Cassel late in the game. He was solid in the preseason, although he has had ball-security issues. Here is what Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. thinks of Palko:

The best way to describe [Palko] is this:

Coach’s son, a student of the game. Eats, sleeps and breathes it. Very coach-friendly. He’s a good athlete. He’s tough, smart. He’s a very average thrower of the football, but he has obviously worked on it quite a bit and he looks to be improving.

Is Ricky Stanzi a possibility? I think the only way we see Stanzi play this season is if the Chiefs are completely awful with Palko and fall out of the race. The impression I have gotten is the Chiefs don’t think the fifth-round pick is ready to play. But perhaps in December, we could see the Iowa product get a chance to show what he can do.

How the Chiefs can stay competitive: They are going to have to improve on defense and have a consistent running game. Let’s face it; it’s going to be very difficult for this team to win enough game to stay in the race. The 2011 season in Kansas City will be remembered as one that was ruined by injuries.

How this affects Dwayne Bowe: His numbers will likely suffer for the rest of the season, which may have a detrimental effect when he becomes a free agent at the end of the season.I think now is the perfect time for the Chiefs and for Bowe to come to a contract accord to ensure his future in Kansas City. The Chiefs need to look to the future and Bowe needs to be part of it.

How this affects Jon Baldwin: It’s been a tough rookie season for the first-round pick. He missed time due to the lockout and then a thumb injury he suffered in a reported fight with teammate Thomas Jones in camp cost him two months. If he loses his starting quarterback, Baldwin and Cassel will not be able get in sync until next spring.

**RealSNR** · 11-14-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Bill Williamson doesn't know shit.

No kidding. He should stick to drawing comic strips

R8RFAN · 11-15-2011, 01:28 AM

I hope Cassel has a nice long career in the NFL.... Hell he was great at New England

Iconic · 11-15-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I hope Cassel has a nice long career in the NFL.... Hell he was great at New England

Ahuh. I see what you're doing now....

R8RFAN · 11-15-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Ahuh. I see what you're doing now....

Seriously, he is an excellent QB for the Chiefs

11-15-2011, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Seriously, he is an excellent QB for the Chiefs

I agree. Now how can we get the NFC West back on our schedule for 16 games? They liked to play into the whole "protect Cassel" scheme. It's not fair that other teams have learned all they need to do is blitz and cover the check-down.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-15-2011, 05:23 AM

I fully expect Cassel to be back.

Whether they draft a QB or think that Stanzi is the QBOTF, the Chiefs are still going to have Cassel under center next year.

I don't think that Haley will be back. Cassel's injury gives him more of an excuse come the end of the season.

But, the Chiefs were 4-4 going into this game. They lost by four TD's or more in three of thos losses. And, they lost to the winless Dolphins. They were losing to the Broncos before Cassel went down.

I fully expect that Haley will be gone. I would love to see a Jeff Fisher or Bill Cowher. I would be okay with a first time head coach like Toub, Fewell or Olson.

But, I have a feeling we will be seeing Eric Mangini or Josh McDaniels being introduced as the Chiefs next head coach.

I think McDaniels and Mangini both have the capability to be good head coaches....especially under the guidance of Pioli. But, they aren't my first choice.

Holladay · 11-15-2011, 05:37 AM

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the chefs have drafted QB's in the first round before... this year's class seems pretty deep. Peeeohlee just needs to make sure he does his homework before he pulls the trigger.

see 1983...cira Todd Blackledge

ILChief · 11-15-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The only way that I watch this team next year with Cassel at QB.....is if we draft a QB in the 1st round.

We've won too many games to get Luck. If we want Barkley, we need to get ahead of Miami, Seattle, and Washington. Otherwise it's Landry Jones or reach for someone else

memyselfI · 11-15-2011, 06:45 AM

Haley deserves a pass, my ass.

Marcellus · 11-15-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I fully expect Cassel to be back.

Whether they draft a QB or think that Stanzi is the QBOTF, the Chiefs are still going to have Cassel under center next year.

I don't think that Haley will be back. Cassel's injury gives him more of an excuse come the end of the season.

But, the Chiefs were 4-4 going into this game. They lost by four TD's or more in three of thos losses. And, they lost to the winless Dolphins. They were losing to the Broncos before Cassel went down.

I fully expect that Haley will be gone. I would love to see a Jeff Fisher or Bill Cowher. I would be okay with a first time head coach like Toub, Fewell or Olson.

But, I have a feeling we will be seeing Eric Mangini or Josh McDaniels being introduced as the Chiefs next head coach.

I think McDaniels and Mangini both have the capability to be good head coaches....especially under the guidance of Pioli. But, they aren't my first choice.

You are a moran and I can take nothing you say seriously ever again, not that I did before.

Both of these coaches are abject failures.

Deberg_1990 · 11-15-2011, 07:47 AM

IM sure Haley will get a pass but IMO he doesnt deserve it. The problems with this team run far deeper than just Cassel.

**BigRichard** · 11-15-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

ESPN 7:36pm EST

What is Cassel’s future? I highly doubt we’ve seen the last of Cassel in Kansas City. He has been uneven, but the Chiefs appear to be committed to him at least for the short term. I expect Cassel to be the Chiefs’ starter in 2012.

This is my biggest fear.

madmike · 11-15-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Why the **** are we commited to Matt Cassel?

This franchise is a joke.

I'm with you, idk if I can take another year of matt cassel falling to the ground everytime a defender gets near him....he is basically kyle orton who was replaced by a college quaterback.

**Dave Lane** · 11-15-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Our only hope is for Stanzi to come in and play lights out and make it impossible to go back to cassel. First he has to get on the field. With richardson protecting palko's blind side, that shouldn't take long.

That.

**Dave Lane** · 11-15-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You are a moran and I can take nothing you say seriously ever again, not that I did before.

Both of these coaches are abject failures.

This is not true. Mangino has gotten three gold stars in several pie eating contests.

11-14-2011, 09:16 PM
Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	Bill Williamson: What Matt Cassel's injury means ESPN 7:36pm EST Let’s look at the significant issues surrounding the Kansas City Chiefs after the news that quarterback Matt Cassel may be out for the rest of the season with a hand injury. He will require surgery and will, at least, miss several games: What is Cassel’s future? I highly doubt we’ve seen the last of Cassel in Kansas City. He has been uneven, but the Chiefs appear to be committed to him at least for the short term. I expect Cassel to be the Chiefs’ starter in 2012. The Chiefs’ season is likely over: This is not the time to lose your starting quarterback. After back-to-back home losses to Miami and Denver, the Chiefs are now 4-5 and enter a five-game stretch that features five 2010 playoff teams. Kansas City is struggling it is unlikely it will be able to withstand this tough stretch and stay in the AFC West race. How much can one team take? Cassel’s injury is just another significant blow to this team. The Chiefs already lost star running back Jamaal Charles, star safety Eric Berry, and standout tight end Tony Moeaki to season-ending knee injuries. All of those injuries happened in September. These are the core players of this team. Haley deserves a pass: There has been speculation throughout the season that Kansas City coach Todd Haley could be on the hot seat. But Cassel’s injury and the earlier major injuries have severely changed this team. The Chiefs’ record may not be impressive when the season is completed, but they are making strides, and Haley deserves to come back in 2012 with his full roster. What should we expect from Tyler Palko? The left-handed quarterback is very inexperienced. Palko, 28, has thrown just 13 passes in the regular season since entering the NFL in 2007. He completed five of six attempts Sunday when he spelled Cassel late in the game. He was solid in the preseason, although he has had ball-security issues. Here is what Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. thinks of Palko: The best way to describe [Palko] is this: Coach’s son, a student of the game. Eats, sleeps and breathes it. Very coach-friendly. He’s a good athlete. He’s tough, smart. He’s a very average thrower of the football, but he has obviously worked on it quite a bit and he looks to be improving. Is Ricky Stanzi a possibility? I think the only way we see Stanzi play this season is if the Chiefs are completely awful with Palko and fall out of the race. The impression I have gotten is the Chiefs don’t think the fifth-round pick is ready to play. But perhaps in December, we could see the Iowa product get a chance to show what he can do. How the Chiefs can stay competitive: They are going to have to improve on defense and have a consistent running game. Let’s face it; it’s going to be very difficult for this team to win enough game to stay in the race. The 2011 season in Kansas City will be remembered as one that was ruined by injuries. How this affects Dwayne Bowe: His numbers will likely suffer for the rest of the season, which may have a detrimental effect when he becomes a free agent at the end of the season.I think now is the perfect time for the Chiefs and for Bowe to come to a contract accord to ensure his future in Kansas City. The Chiefs need to look to the future and Bowe needs to be part of it. How this affects Jon Baldwin: It’s been a tough rookie season for the first-round pick. He missed time due to the lockout and then a thumb injury he suffered in a reported fight with teammate Thomas Jones in camp cost him two months. If he loses his starting quarterback, Baldwin and Cassel will not be able get in sync until next spring.
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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I fully expect Cassel to be back. Whether they draft a QB or think that Stanzi is the QBOTF, the Chiefs are still going to have Cassel under center next year. I don't think that Haley will be back. Cassel's injury gives him more of an excuse come the end of the season. But, the Chiefs were 4-4 going into this game. They lost by four TD's or more in three of thos losses. And, they lost to the winless Dolphins. They were losing to the Broncos before Cassel went down. I fully expect that Haley will be gone. I would love to see a Jeff Fisher or Bill Cowher. I would be okay with a first time head coach like Toub, Fewell or Olson. But, I have a feeling we will be seeing Eric Mangini or Josh McDaniels being introduced as the Chiefs next head coach. I think McDaniels and Mangini both have the capability to be good head coaches....especially under the guidance of Pioli. But, they aren't my first choice. __________________ A bad day at the gym is better than a good day on the Couch.
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