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Old 12-19-2011, 10:54 AM  
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The playcalling difference...
The difference in playcalling yesterday compared to the entire season if not the last 3 seasons was just ****ing mind bottling! Not 1,2,3, but 4 screens in one game? TE's being hit over the middle for more than 3 yards? No Dex up the middle for -2?

Ok, so, was this really because of Orton who had practiced really all of one week? Or was this because Haley was not there to chain down Muir on the playcalling?

Don't get me wrong, I am not here to sell Muir as a good OC. But JFC...we were a totally different team all the way around? How does this happen in less than a week? How does a team that couldn't get a first down to save their life suddenly go to punting onl twice the entire game with 0 turnovers and 0 sacks?

Obviously Orton brings a lot to that situation but it was the non-passing plays that stuck out the most. Particularly the lack of running Mighty Mouse 1.5 up the middle constantly for not.

I think Haley was a damper on this offense. When Muir and Zorn can take the same roster of backups and retirees with a QB that has been practing for all of a few days and turnout the performance we saw against The Pack then yu have to say that either Orton was football God's gift to the Chiefs or Muir and Zorn were finally able to call an offense that would actually produce.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:29 AM   #31
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The same plays are in the playbook. That hasn't changed, but the pattern that the plays were called yesterday was different and the play calling wasn't entirely predictable. It was almost as if there was an overarching plan and purpose in their play calling. Using the OL in space, screens to slow down the rush, etc. It almost made me think someone had watched some film.

Obviously having a legitimate NFL quarterback made many plays more successful, and even those that were not made the Packers react (thinking of the incomplete to Baldwin on the three).

Yesterday, when they had succes the stuck with it. For instance, they kept running the screen until GB made an adjustment. Previously, when something had been successful Jones immedately went back in for another dose of Herm-ball. GB never did have an answer for the outside running game.

Now just to find a solution to the goal line offense (cough..Bowe in the corner...cough).
Not losing yards on 1st down can change the entire flow of a game...
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:32 AM   #32
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10 different players caught the ball.
This is due to the QB, not play selection.

Red zone play selection was awful.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:37 AM   #33
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:39 AM   #34
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This is due to the QB, not play selection.

Red zone play selection was awful.
I thought McClain and Breaston both could have had TDs with better execution. The play calls were okay on those two plays.

Otherwise, not much you can do when timing is off with your new QB and WR, and the OL is getting bent over.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:41 AM   #35
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Very little difference, just a lot better execution starting at the QB position.

I noticed that we passed on first down more.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:43 AM   #36
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Playcalling was different. Seemed like Jones and McClain were used much more. I didn't notice Dex in the backfield all that much attempting to pick up blitzes.
yep, it was different ... there was more unpredictability to the playcalling

normally i can pretty much tell what play is coming next and yesterday i couldn't. That first screen actually caught me by surprise. I'm not sure the offense ever did that under Haley.

other than the redzone offense, the playcalling was pretty decent.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:43 AM   #37
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No, I meant "mind bottling". It's from a Will Ferrel movie you obviously haven't seen.
Ah, I see. Couldn't get thru that one. Stupid movie.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:46 AM   #38
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Very little difference, just a lot better execution starting at the QB position.

I noticed that we passed on first down more.
bullshit

we didn't start ever drive with a drawplay, for one.

QB has nothing to do with that shit

McClain got the carries up the middle instead of DMC

QB has nothing to do with that

timing of the screen plays called has nothing to do with the QB

Pope being open by 15 yards ... twice!! was because of the unpredictability of the offense not the QB.
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I thought McClain and Breaston both could have had TDs with better execution. The play calls were okay on those two plays.

Otherwise, not much you can do when timing is off with your new QB and WR, and the OL is getting bent over.
McClain just flat dropped his. The pass to Breasting was a shade behind him.

Muir needs to hang it up, though.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:49 AM   #40
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bullshit

we didn't start ever drive with a drawplay, for one.

QB has nothing to do with that shit

McClain got the carries up the middle instead of DMC

QB has nothing to do with that

timing of the screen plays called has nothing to do with the QB

Pope being open by 15 yards ... twice!! was because of the unpredictability of the offense not the QB.
LOL, Okay there fireplug.
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McClain just flat dropped his. The pass to Breasting was a shade behind him.

Muir needs to hang it up, though.
He has 2 more weeks to prove it was Haley holding him back.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:50 AM   #42
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bullshit

we didn't start ever drive with a drawplay, for one.

QB has nothing to do with that shit

McClain got the carries up the middle instead of DMC
QB has nothing to do with that

timing of the screen plays called has nothing to do with the QB

Pope being open by 15 yards ... twice!! was because of the unpredictability of the offense not the QB.
It took 13 games for the staff to finally utilize McClain like he needed to be. The guy has good hands and can get a few yards up the gut...

I was miffed on the Haley firing during the season, but the way the O operated yetserday made me realize what a hinderance he was.
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bullshit

we didn't start ever drive with a drawplay, for one.

QB has nothing to do with that shit

McClain got the carries up the middle instead of DMC

QB has nothing to do with that

timing of the screen plays called has nothing to do with the QB

Pope being open by 15 yards ... twice!! was because of the unpredictability of the offense not the QB.
Per usual, you prove yourself to be a ****ing moron.

If you cannot tell the biggest difference yesterday was QB play, then there is no hope for you to ever learn anything about this game. Ever.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:51 AM   #44
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RAC himself said they didn't do anything much different.

They've run screens for the better part of 2.5 years, Cassel just can't execute them.
Yep. I didn't see much difference in play calling. It was just executed properly.
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I'm going out on a limb and say that the play calling was improved due to Grandpa having free reign, but also the fact that our QB actually hung in the pocket and ran through his progressions...
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