Chiefs Describe your 'perfect' offseason - Page 3

DJ's left nut · 02-20-2012, 01:01 AM

The only caveat being that it needs to be reasonably doable.

And remember, this is a 'perfect' offseason, so there is no priority of occurences, so don't feel the need to list them in order of your preferred events. Additionally, remember that you're the owner and GM; so I don't care what Clark will spend, or what Pioli would do. It's your toy.

Mine:

Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit).
Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit).

Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal giving him a marginal signing bonus but a fairly significant year 1 salary. Manning isn't a guy that will shut it down in years 2 and 3 if he's paid the bulk of his K in year 1 so he's a perfect use of our 'rollover' funds. You could give him a hefty guaranteed base salary (10 millionish) and a signing bonus of another 10 million(ish), thus guaranteeing him $20 million without knowing if he can throw; I don't think any other teams are willing to do that. You'll end up with a cap hit just shy of $14 million that way.

Sign Soliai. He, OTOH, may be a guy that would shut it down if he gets paid large up front, so we'll want to go 'conventional' with his deal. Vince Wilfork signed a record deal for NTs and his cap hit has been fairly reasonable for the last 2 years, with the best source I could find having it at about 5 million last year. Kyle Williams just re-signed for 6/39. Ngata has blown the scale a little bit in his new deal, but even it only has cap figures of about $7 million and $10.5 million in the first 2 seasons, with increases of about $2 million/season thereafter. The good news is that my memory is that Hali's contract was frontloaded, so it could easily offset that increase. But let's be pessimistic and say that Soliai gets a 'ngata' deal (unlikely, IMO) and we get an $8 million cap hit.

So you have cap hits of 8, 8.5, 14 and 8; about $38.5 million. Some say we get $63 million to play with, others are suggesting $37 million. In either event, at $37 million, money could be moved, contracts re-structured in a manner to make those 4 players fit, IMO. And if we have $60 some - well it's all the easier.

Draft time:

1) Trent Richardson, RB -- Dunno what we'll have in Charles and Richardson's skills as a pass-blocker/WR out of the backfield could help Manning out a ton. Our offense would be the best in the league at that point, IMO.

2) Zebrie Sanders, RT -- I think many concerns that LTs will go very high in the draft are well founded; I expect a run on LTs. The good news is that Sanders doesn't appear to be well suited to play LT and isn't quite a first round talent anyway. He appears to be very likely to fall to us, a capable pass-blocker (though not elite; hence his status as a likely RT) and a very good run-blocker.

3) Kevin Zeitler, G -- I know, I'm gonna get 'truefanned' to death here; but I don't think expecting Foles in the 3rd is reasonable. The ability to turn over 2/5 of our O-line as well as having a ton of young talent on that line is just too much to pass up. This kid is a road-grader and could give us just a little bit more of a nasty streak inside with Asomoah.

4) FANGUPO! -- Okay, with Soliai, we don't really need him; I just like his name. Honestly I'd love to see Ryan Broles, WR with this pick. If he comes back healthy, he's absolutely electric. He'd be what McCluster was supposed to be in the slot. He probably wouldn't be to full speed this season but we honestly wouldn't need him there just yet. He'd be a fantastic long-term weapon to get this late.

5) Michael Egnew, TE -- His senior bowl performances swayed me. Big kid, great hands. I think he can be taught to be at least a Dallas Clark level blocker. He'd be a great insurance policy for Moeaki and he's always been healthy as a horse.

6) Ryan Lindley -- Why not? I think he has some talent to work with.

7) I dunno - go find me a raw linebacker that can crack some skulls on special teams. Or a corner with some tools that might be an adequate dime-back some day. How 'bout Asa Jackson? Short but with speed to burn. D'Anton Lynn would also work here; taller but not as athletic. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long had he not gotten hurt last year. Probably a nice value pick here, but not as much upside as Jackson, IMO.

So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason.

What say you? How would your perfect offseason go?

(EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)

ClevelandBronco · 02-20-2012, 08:36 PM

Chiefs hire Romeo as HC.

Rasputin · 02-20-2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson

Clark Hunt sells the team to Mark Cuban
Pioli is fired
Cassel is cut or traded
re-sign Bowe and Carr
sign Soliai
round 1 - draft RGIII
rounds 2-7 select the BPA
championship!

When you say cut, do you mean with a sharp double edge sword like off with his head, or do you mean a dull axe that manes him in the back that leaves an AIDs infection?

Just want some clarification on this to see if it would be perfect or not.

Psyko Tek · 02-20-2012, 10:59 PM

I get tooo many bj's

**RealSNR** · 02-21-2012, 12:04 AM

Matt Cassel discovers his inner light and moves to a Himalayan retreat in Tibet, forever swearing off earthly pleasures like professional football.

**Munson** · 02-21-2012, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

When you say cut, do you mean with a sharp double edge sword like off with his head, or do you mean a dull axe that manes him in the back that leaves an AIDs infection?

Just want some clarification on this to see if it would be perfect or not.

His right arm will be cut off with a rusty spoon, which will naturally leave an AIDS infection.

Rasputin · 02-21-2012, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munson

His right arm will be cut off with a rusty spoon, which will naturally leave an AIDS infection.

Ok, thanks. That should work then. Perfect.

Bump · 02-21-2012, 01:18 AM

Pioli/Cassel murder/suicide

**BossChief** · 02-21-2012, 03:02 AM

Cut/Trade Cassel, like I said before.

Sign Bowe to a long term deal and franchise Carr.

Trade Carr for a first and Dorsey for a second/third and move both picks plus our #11 to move up to take RG3 and STOP REPEATING PAST MISTAKES AND LOOKING LIKE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL BECAUSE WE HAVENT A CLUE OF HOW TO REALLY GET A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.

Im fine with Pioli as long as he moves on from Cassel sooner rather than later and drafts his replacement in the first ****ing round.

He has done well with the rest of his moves (withholding judgement on the Carr situation until further information is available)

tredadda · 02-21-2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Cut/Trade Cassel, like I said before.

Sign Bowe to a long term deal and franchise Carr.

Trade Carr for a first and Dorsey for a second/third and move both picks plus our #11 to move up to take RG3 and STOP REPEATING PAST MISTAKES AND LOOKING LIKE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL BECAUSE WE HAVENT A CLUE OF HOW TO REALLY GET A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.

Im fine with Pioli as long as he moves on from Cassel sooner rather than later and drafts his replacement in the first ****ing round.

He has done well with the rest of his moves (withholding judgement on the Carr situation until further information is available)

I would not mind that scenario at all. I would hate to lose Carr, but I would do it if it meant getting RGIII. I just wonder if we could get a first for Carr though.

Austin Ed · 02-23-2012, 03:45 AM

Sign Evan Mathis rather than Grubbs or Nicks. Less expensive and coming into his own. Solid SEC pedigree. Sign Solial. Draft R. Reiff in first. Draft best available ILB in second. Resign Bowe. Franchise if necessary. Sign the Law Firm. Draft Jared Crick in third. Sign Orton. Give Stanzi some reps. Sign Brady Quinn as veteran backup and competition for Orton/Stanzi. Cut Cassell.

02-20-2012, 01:01 AM
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-850901	Describe your 'perfect' offseason The only caveat being that it needs to be reasonably doable. And remember, this is a 'perfect' offseason, so there is no priority of occurences, so don't feel the need to list them in order of your preferred events. Additionally, remember that you're the owner and GM; so I don't care what Clark will spend, or what Pioli would do. It's your toy. Mine: Re-sign Carr (ballpark his deal at Flowers; $8 mil cap hit). Franchise Bowe ($8.5 mil cap hit). Sign Manning to a 3-yr deal giving him a marginal signing bonus but a fairly significant year 1 salary. Manning isn't a guy that will shut it down in years 2 and 3 if he's paid the bulk of his K in year 1 so he's a perfect use of our 'rollover' funds. You could give him a hefty guaranteed base salary (10 millionish) and a signing bonus of another 10 million(ish), thus guaranteeing him $20 million without knowing if he can throw; I don't think any other teams are willing to do that. You'll end up with a cap hit just shy of $14 million that way. Sign Soliai. He, OTOH, may be a guy that would shut it down if he gets paid large up front, so we'll want to go 'conventional' with his deal. Vince Wilfork signed a record deal for NTs and his cap hit has been fairly reasonable for the last 2 years, with the best source I could find having it at about 5 million last year. Kyle Williams just re-signed for 6/39. Ngata has blown the scale a little bit in his new deal, but even it only has cap figures of about $7 million and $10.5 million in the first 2 seasons, with increases of about $2 million/season thereafter. The good news is that my memory is that Hali's contract was frontloaded, so it could easily offset that increase. But let's be pessimistic and say that Soliai gets a 'ngata' deal (unlikely, IMO) and we get an $8 million cap hit. So you have cap hits of 8, 8.5, 14 and 8; about $38.5 million. Some say we get $63 million to play with, others are suggesting $37 million. In either event, at $37 million, money could be moved, contracts re-structured in a manner to make those 4 players fit, IMO. And if we have $60 some - well it's all the easier. Draft time: 1) Trent Richardson, RB -- Dunno what we'll have in Charles and Richardson's skills as a pass-blocker/WR out of the backfield could help Manning out a ton. Our offense would be the best in the league at that point, IMO. 2) Zebrie Sanders, RT -- I think many concerns that LTs will go very high in the draft are well founded; I expect a run on LTs. The good news is that Sanders doesn't appear to be well suited to play LT and isn't quite a first round talent anyway. He appears to be very likely to fall to us, a capable pass-blocker (though not elite; hence his status as a likely RT) and a very good run-blocker. 3) Kevin Zeitler, G -- I know, I'm gonna get 'truefanned' to death here; but I don't think expecting Foles in the 3rd is reasonable. The ability to turn over 2/5 of our O-line as well as having a ton of young talent on that line is just too much to pass up. This kid is a road-grader and could give us just a little bit more of a nasty streak inside with Asomoah. 4) FANGUPO! -- Okay, with Soliai, we don't really need him; I just like his name. Honestly I'd love to see Ryan Broles, WR with this pick. If he comes back healthy, he's absolutely electric. He'd be what McCluster was supposed to be in the slot. He probably wouldn't be to full speed this season but we honestly wouldn't need him there just yet. He'd be a fantastic long-term weapon to get this late. 5) Michael Egnew, TE -- His senior bowl performances swayed me. Big kid, great hands. I think he can be taught to be at least a Dallas Clark level blocker. He'd be a great insurance policy for Moeaki and he's always been healthy as a horse. 6) Ryan Lindley -- Why not? I think he has some talent to work with. 7) I dunno - go find me a raw linebacker that can crack some skulls on special teams. Or a corner with some tools that might be an adequate dime-back some day. How 'bout Asa Jackson? Short but with speed to burn. D'Anton Lynn would also work here; taller but not as athletic. Probably wouldn't have lasted as long had he not gotten hurt last year. Probably a nice value pick here, but not as much upside as Jackson, IMO. So there you have it - my 'ideal' offseason. What say you? How would your perfect offseason go? (EDIT: **** me...that's really long. My bad)
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1755912	Cut/Trade Cassel, like I said before. Sign Bowe to a long term deal and franchise Carr. Trade Carr for a first and Dorsey for a second/third and move both picks plus our #11 to move up to take RG3 and STOP REPEATING PAST MISTAKES AND LOOKING LIKE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL BECAUSE WE HAVENT A CLUE OF HOW TO REALLY GET A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Im fine with Pioli as long as he moves on from Cassel sooner rather than later and drafts his replacement in the first ****ing round. He has done well with the rest of his moves (withholding judgement on the Carr situation until further information is available) __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Austin Ed Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Casino cash: $9984900	Sign Evan Mathis rather than Grubbs or Nicks. Less expensive and coming into his own. Solid SEC pedigree. Sign Solial. Draft R. Reiff in first. Draft best available ILB in second. Resign Bowe. Franchise if necessary. Sign the Law Firm. Draft Jared Crick in third. Sign Orton. Give Stanzi some reps. Sign Brady Quinn as veteran backup and competition for Orton/Stanzi. Cut Cassell.
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