Sac's 2012 Post Combine Mock Draft

[Saccopoo]

2012 Post Combine Mock Draft

1. Luke Kuechly, ILB; Boston College: 6’3”, 242 lbs.
- I’ve had Kuechly mocked here before because it represents the best player available situation for the Chiefs. Kuechly is one of, if not the, most instinctive linebacker in recent memory and averaged nearly 16 tackles a game (15.9) for Boston College this past season. During the Combine, he showed top flight athleticism and speed and was a top performer in nearly every single drill. His combine numbers were better than Pat Willis. He’s an elite level guy for the MLB position.



2. Kelechi Osemele, OT; Iowa State: 6’6”, 333 lbs.
- Osemele measured in at the Combine at a hair under 6’6”, tipped the scales at 333 lbs. and had the longest arms of any offensive tackle in Indianapolis. He ran fluidly in the drills for a guy his size and also showed power in benching 32 reps. There is power in both the top and bottom halves of his body and really enjoys drive blocking opponents into the ground. He’s also a three time academic Honor Roll student as well as a 2011 First Team All-Big 12 player.



3. Robert Turbin, RB; Utah State: 5'10", 222 lbs.
- Turbin showed up at the Combine looking like a Thomas Jones clone (maybe more buff) with huge arms, a thick neck and a barrel of a chest. He also showed exceptional speed for a 5’ 10”, 222 lbs., running a 4.44 in one of his 40’s. He was also a top performer in the majority of the drills. To back that up, he also averaged 6.1 ypc, 126 ypg, with 19 touchdowns on the ground. He’s shown himself to be a very good receiver as well, averaging 10.1 ypc and four TD's in 2011. They guy is a top flight all-purpose back.



4. Ryan Lindley, QB; San Diego State: 6’4”, 229 lbs.
- Lindley has two things that the NFL loves: prototype size and an absolute cannon for an arm. He’s also undervalued in terms of athleticism. He put up decent combine numbers, but it’s the arm which is going to get him drafted around the late third/early fourth. He struggled with inconsistency in his passing in college due to his reliance on his arm, but if Zorn is as good as he’s reputed to be with QB’s, Lindley could turn into something special.



5. David Molk, C; Michigan: 6’1”, 298 lbs.
- The reigning Rimington Award winner (top college center) and First Team All-Big 10 (beating out Wisconsin’s Pete Konz) possesses excellent strength and leverage and put up an incredible 41 reps on the bench at the Combine.



6. Drake Dunsmore, TE; Northwestern: 6’2”, 241 lbs.
- Dunsmore had a terrific combine, being a top performer in all the agility and speed drills. He averaged 11.6 ypc for the Wildcats and had six TD’s in 2011. A versatile end with good hands and an underrated blocker. First team All-Big 10.



7. Jeron McMillian, S; Maine: 5’11”, 203 lbs.
- Think of Jovan Belcher as a safety, regardless of the fact that both went to Maine. McMillan is a hard-nosed, instinctive football player that is fundamentally sound. Is very good blitzing the quarterback and is a fierce run stuffer. Ran a solid 4.56 40 at the combine along with a very good 36.5” vertical.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby;8409364[QUOTE

]No shit.

Kuechly is going to be a fine player, for the Eagles. He doesn't have the size, nor do I think he has the mentality to be a thumper that Romeo Crennel wants. He'd fill the role that Derrick Johnson currently fills, very well.

Johnson is doing just fine as what he was supposed to be out of college. Five years out of college - finally.

Kuechely is going to be "the guy" where ever he is drafted. His college numbers and combine numbers are way beyond anyone at his position historically. Downgrade him because he's white. Everyone seems to do it, even after the Combine. The guy averaged 16 tackles a game, posted better combine stats than Pat Willis, but yet he's still "just a guy" around here.

That shows how ****ing stupid you people are.

The guy is a legit 6'3", 245 lbs.

Kelechi Osemele is going to be a really good guard. I don't see the tackle potential.

Because he was first team All-Big 12 at Left Tackle...that means he sucks.

Robert Turbin in the 3rd? No, this is at least a good full round too early. He's had injury problems and can't pass block. 5th round would be more ideal.

I would love Turbin in the fifth. However, even the NFL has Turbin as a borderline second/third rounder. The guy has thrived in a pass heavy scheme, and can block - and block effectively. Add to that he can catch a pass, most passes, from the three read.

The guy is a stud.

Ryan Lindley lacks consistency and accuracy. Sweet lets burn another roster spot and draft pick for another project QB.

Yes he does. He also has an absolute cannon for an arm.

Are you okay going into camp with two quarterbacks?: Cassel and Stanzi? (And I like Stanzi - a lot.)

David Molk? Meh. He'd have to have the ability to play at all positions within the interior line.

Why? You are drafting him as a center. A position he excelled at during his college career. (Senior year netted him the Rimington Award and First Team All-Conference.)

Drake Dunsmore will likely go higher than the 6th.

He might. However, his lack of height and weight might push him down in the draft. Considering that you had All-Americans go in the fourth in 2010, I don't think that a sixth is a big reach.

7. Jeron McMillian, S; Maine: 5’11”, 203 lbs. I am cool with this.

I'm glad. The guy can play. A steal in the seventh - if he is still there.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Johnson is doing just fine as what he was supposed to be out of college. Five years out of college - finally.

Kuechely is going to be "the guy" where ever he is drafted. His college numbers and combine numbers are way beyond anyone at his position historically. Downgrade him because he's white. Everyone seems to do it, even after the Combine. The guy averaged 16 tackles a game, posted better combine stats than Pat Willis, but yet he's still "just a guy" around here.

That shows how ****ing stupid you people are.

The guy is a legit 6'3", 245 lbs.

So now that Johnson is finally playing to his potential, we should ignore needs and draft his replacement for no reason. Downgrade Kuechely because he's white? What in the **** are you even talking about?

I'm not sure how referring that Kuechely is going to be a good player in a more traditional MLB role means I don't want him because he's white. If I'm looking for a thumper, I want someone that plays in more of a "I'm gonna rip off your ****ing head" mentality. Burfict would of filled the role great, but he's just bat shit insane.

Because he was first team All-Big 12 at Left Tackle...that means he sucks.

ITT: The Big 12 set the bar very high for O-Line play and good college tackle definitely equals sure fire high caliber OT in the NFL.

I would love Turbin in the fifth. However, even the NFL has Turbin as a borderline second/third rounder. The guy has thrived in a pass heavy scheme, and can block - and block effectively. Add to that he can catch a pass, most passes, from the three read.

The guy is a stud.

He thrived from completely amazing blocking from his offensive line (seriously, the holes they made were amazing) and I'm not even sure that he was the best back on that roster. I'd still be cool with the Chiefs drafting him, but he's one of those prospects that will be tough to project where he goes.

I'd guess it will depend on when teams really start the rush on drafting RBs.

Yes he does. He also has an absolute cannon for an arm.

Are you okay going into camp with two quarterbacks?: Cassel and Stanzi? (And I like Stanzi - a lot.)

I'd like to see what Stanzi has before going in that early to tab another project. They definitely need to have 3 QB's, but the other QB needs to be someone that can push Cassel or ideally take over for him when he sucks it up.

Why? You are drafting him as a center. A position he excelled at during his college career. (Senior year netted him the Rimington Award and First Team All-Conference.)

The Chiefs (and more teams by the year) carry less and less O-Line depth, so versatility will be very important when you're fleshing out the depth.

He might. However, his lack of height and weight might push him down in the draft. Considering that you had All-Americans go in the fourth in 2010, I don't think that a sixth is a big reach.

This Tight End class is horrible overall.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I look at your mock and think I'd be fine giving the entire draft up for RGIII.

Exactly what I thought

What a huge helping of meh.

[veist]

I like this better than your earlier mock sacc but I don't really like the fit of Kuelchy with the Chiefs. If they're going to draft a "safe" guy in the first I'd like to see someone that is going to be higher impact than a best case incremental upgrade on DJ. Just seems like really sub-optimal resource management to address a position of relative strength with our 1st.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I look at your mock and think I'd be fine giving the entire draft up for RGIII.

Perfect.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by veist

I like this better than your earlier mock sacc but I don't really like the fit of Kuelchy with the Chiefs. If they're going to draft a "safe" guy in the first I'd like to see someone that is going to be higher impact than a best case incremental upgrade on DJ. Just seems like really sub-optimal resource management to address a position of relative strength with our 1st.

Your other options are left tackles, such as Martin or Reiff (one of which I think will fall to the #11 spot, most likely Martin), defensive tackles Poe or Brockers (who I like a lot and looks to have ungodly potential, but is sushi raw), or a guard or center in DeCastro or Konz. There is an outside chance of a corner like Kirkpatrick or Jenkins, but they just signed Routt and drafted Brown in the third last year (and I really liked what I saw out of Brown when he got his chances last year - really showed up on special teams a lot).

At least to me, Kuechly makes the most sense. The Chiefs don't have any depth at the ILB positions and in a perfect world, a guy like Jovan Belcher should be/would be your #3 guy there due to his lack of speed. And I absolutely love Belcher. One of my favorites on the team due to his work ethic and instincts. But with Kuechly, you get those same instincts, work ethic and a major increase in athleticism.

Add to that that DJ will be 30 this next season and has only been able to put together one high level season, which was this past season.

The next best option would be Jon Martin. Albert is in the last year of his contract, there is absolutely no depth at the tackle position and Richardson is the worst starting tackle in the league. You draft a guy like Martin, put him on the right side for next season, see what happens with Albert in his contract year and potentially have Martin as your LT of the future if Albert decides he wants a big contract. (Artunis nailed it in one of his recent posts about Albert and a potential contract/future.)

They are going to have to draft two tackles because of this situation anyway. They might as well have a guy who has upper echelon left tackle potential in Martin versus hope that someone pans out. I think that they wanted to do this last year with Nate Solder, but he went to New England a few spots ahead of the Chiefs.

In hindsight, they should have picked Derrek Sherrod last year instead of Baldwin.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Your other options are left tackles, such as Martin or Reiff (one of which I think will fall to the #11 spot, most likely Martin), defensive tackles Poe or Brockers (who I like a lot and looks to have ungodly potential, but is sushi raw), or a guard or center in DeCastro or Konz. There is an outside chance of a corner like Kirkpatrick or Jenkins, but they just signed Routt and drafted Brown in the third last year (and I really liked what I saw out of Brown when he got his chances last year - really showed up on special teams a lot).

At least to me, Kuechly makes the most sense. The Chiefs don't have any depth at the ILB positions and in a perfect world, a guy like Jovan Belcher should be/would be your #3 guy there due to his lack of speed. And I absolutely love Belcher. One of my favorites on the team due to his work ethic and instincts. But with Kuechly, you get those same instincts, work ethic and a major increase in athleticism.

Add to that that DJ will be 30 this next season and has only been able to put together one high level season, which was this past season.

The next best option would be Jon Martin. Albert is in the last year of his contract, there is absolutely no depth at the tackle position and Richardson is the worst starting tackle in the league. You draft a guy like Martin, put him on the right side for next season, see what happens with Albert in his contract year and potentially have Martin as your LT of the future if Albert decides he wants a big contract. (Artunis nailed it in one of his recent posts about Albert and a potential contract/future.)

They are going to have to draft two tackles because of this situation anyway. They might as well have a guy who has upper echelon left tackle potential in Martin versus hope that someone pans out. I think that they wanted to do this last year with Nate Solder, but he went to New England a few spots ahead of the Chiefs.

In hindsight, they should have picked Derrek Sherrod last year instead of Baldwin.

I just want to point out that Kuechly probably can't fill Belcher's roll in our defense, and if he was, it would be a waste of his talent. We could use a high-upside project player to develop behind DJ, tho.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I just want to point out that Kuechly probably can't fill Belcher's roll in our defense, and if he was, it would be a waste of his talent. We could use a high-upside project player to develop behind DJ, tho.

Agree.

That's why I say that they are in a bit of no-man's land at #11.

Jon Martin very well might be the best option there if they stay pat. The other option(s) would be to move up for either Luck or Griffin or move down for Konz.

Either that or you take Brockers as Dorsey heads into the last year of his initial contract.

If they stay pat, I'm probably leaning towards Reiff or Martin. They are going to need two offensive tackles out of this draft - one to push Richardson out who is capable of possibly moving to the left side if Albert goes totally insane and wants a big contract after next season, and one who can be an effective RT/swing tackle for depth (something we do not currently have).

I wouldn't mind them moving up or down though.

I'm as sick as anyone about the crap we've been parading out at the QB spot since Montana (and Dawson before that - though Deberg was fun to watch for a couple of years). It's high time we got a guy who could be that guy. I wouldn't mind a trade up for Griffin.

And we need a high quality center as no one knows if Weigmann will retire or not. I wouldn't mind a trade down for Konz.

I seriously don't see Indy doing anything other than taking Luck. They should have their franchise stripped from them if they take someone else or trade that pick. Depending on the price for Griffin, I wouldn't really mind it if the Chiefs make a move up. I don't want them to sell a whole draft or two, but a 1/3 this year and a 1 next (and maybe even a player) is the most I would find acceptable. (Though there is a chance of getting a pretty good QB prospect next year with that pick, so you have to take that into consideration as well.) Anything beyond that is utterly stupid.

[O.city]

So Sac, is there a RT prospect that could be had in the third or fourth that could start right away?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

So Sac, is there a RT prospect that could be had in the third or fourth that could start right away?

Best canidate would be Matt Reynolds of BYU.

He's a four year starter at left tackle in a pro-style set offense that set school passing and rushing records during his time there. He was a freshman first team All-American. He was a four time, first team All-Conference selection. He was also a four time, first team All-Conference academic selection.

He's got very good footwork, plays through the whistle, plays nasty but also plays smart. He's adapt at both run and pass blocking and can carry additional weight and still be very effective and athletic on the field.

He's 25, so he's physically and mentally mature. He's a two-time team captain. He worked hard this off-season to redefine his body and he showed up at the combine looking more like a left tackle than anyone other than Kalil.

His current line coach said he's on the same level as former player Logan Mankins.

A lot of draft boards were projecting him in the first round of the 2011 draft if he came out early.

He's played at a very high level his whole career, has been very durable, and is a team leader who leads by example on and off the field. He basically shut down everyone he went against this past season.

I have absolutely no idea why people/draftniks don't have him as one of the upper echelon tackles in this draft. If he's there in the third when the Chiefs pick, they should seriously consider him with that pick. He's the most "ready now" NFL level RT prospect in the draft, especially for the zone system the Chiefs use/will use.

[O.city]

I thought I seen a mock with him in the 6th somewhere.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I thought I seen a mock with him in the 6th somewhere.

This is the same player that Mike Mayock had in the first round of his pre-2011 mock, contingent on Reynolds coming out his junior year.

He got in better shape, had an excellent season - another first team All-Conference selection, and measured in at the combine at 6'4 1/2" and 306 lbs. looking lean and ran the drills fluidly. No injuries, was once again team captain, etc.

2011 | Senior Year - Outland Trophy Watch List, Lombardi Award Candidate, Lowe's Senior Class Award Nominee ... Phil Steele All-Independent First Team, Yahoo! Sports All-Independent Team, FBS All-Independent Team ... invited to East-West Shrine Game ... team captain ... earned letterman honors as a senior ... started all 13 games, tieing him for the most starts in BYU history with 52; every game of his career ... led team in pancake blocks ... helped BYU rank No. 5 in third-down conversions (51.94 percent) ... contributed to five games where BYU rushed for 200+ yards and 200+ passing yards ... helped BYU to No. 20 in first downs per game (23.54) ... BYU offensive line allowed 1.31 sacks per game (T-No. 27) and 4.38 tackles for loss allowed per game (T-No. 12) ... part of offensive line that allowed zero sacks in five different games and two or fewer in 10 games ... got his helmet knocked off but got a big block to spring quarterback for a touchdown pass vs. Tulsa in the Armed Forces Bowl ... named to ESPN.com All-Bowl Team for his efforts

Yep. Reads just like a sixth round project to me.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by O.city

I thought I seen a mock with him in the 6th somewhere.

He plays for BYU.

Thats all you should know about where Sacc is going to project him.

Most people say he needs to move inside to G because he's undersized and cant handle speed for T but Sacc is going to project him as one of the best second day tackles in the draft because he plays for BYU.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by jd1020

He plays for BYU.

Thats all you should know about where Sacc is going to project him.

Most people say he needs to move inside to G because he's undersized and cant handle speed for T but Sacc is going to project him as one of the best second day tackles in the draft because he plays for BYU.

MAYBE two draftniks with less than impressive reputations have said this. That is not most.

[O.city]

Sac, say we take Richardson at 11, would you think about trading back up into the first to grab Konz?