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Old 07-13-2012, 01:29 PM  
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Chiefs preached “Kill the head and the body will die,” too
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Among the many incendiary statements that former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams used to fire up his players was, “Kill the head and the body will die.” There’s been a great deal of debate about what Williams meant when he talked about killing the head, but there’s no doubt about this: He wasn’t the only one in the NFL who used that phrase.

In fact, players walking into the Kansas City Chiefs’ defensive line room in 2008 were greeted with that slogan painted in huge letters: “KILL THE HEAD & THE BODY WILL DIE.”

The phrase was shown on the 2008 NFL Films production Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL, which aired on NFL Network today. (The image here is a picture I took of my TV.) Herm Edwards was the Chiefs’ head coach at the time, Gunther Cunningham was the defensive coordinator and Tim Krumrie was the defensive line coach. It’s not clear who painted the slogan or which members of the coaching staff endorsed it, but it is clear that the phrase was something the Chiefs wanted all of their defensive linemen to see.

After audio emerged of Williams saying before the playoff game against the 49ers that he wanted his players to “Make sure we kill Frank Gore’s head,” many people were shocked at what they heard, while some former players said it was par for the course in the NFL. In the Chiefs’ defensive line meeting room, “Kill the head & the body will die” was the first thing every player saw, every time he walked in.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:02 PM   #31
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The protective equipment is way more advanced now though.

I don't think it was anymore of a treat to get hit by Butkus, Lambert or Deacon back in the day than it is to get hit by Patrick Willis now.
Hell its not fun to get hit playing high school football but the rush of doing it to somebody else is one of the best experiecnes in the world.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:04 PM   #32
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They should have just painted the visitor's locker room pink.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:13 PM   #33
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:16 PM   #34
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There are tons of people formerly with this organization who love the Chiefs and Kansas City. Len Dawson and Trent Green for starters.

Difference between those guys and Gunther? They were actually good at what they did.
Trent and Len didn't want to crush souls and rip hearts out of people CHuck Norris style like Gunther did.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:42 PM   #35
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I'm pretty sure it is well-established that if you get pressure on the quarterback, the rest of the passing game falls apart.
Yea I am amazed that people in media take this shit literally.

It means the QB is the head of the snake and shut him down and the entire offense (the body) goes down.

This is a great example of something being manipulated to mean something different than the intention so it can fit the agenda being driven.

Kind of like what happens on CP daily.
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I didn't care when it was the Saints, I don't care now.

The sport is nothing without violence.

Don't like it?

Don't watch or don't play.
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It has to do with context. Williams included that little gem in a speech about hurting other players. That is a bounty program. The same cannot be said of the Chiefs.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:54 PM   #38
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Classless. Gregg Williams needs to apologize on behalf of the entire organization.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:54 PM   #39
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They should have just painted the visitor's locker room pink.
Dude thats uncalled for. Really. Gtfo with that crap. Keep it clean. There could be children around. You jive turkey
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Gunther wants to rip the hearts and souls out of opposing players.

****in love that man. He had shit to work with and wasn't very successful his 2nd time around, but he loved the Chiefs and loved KC more than any coach that's been here.
Yep, he only needed about 5 more pro bowlers on D, and a couple HOFers, he would be set.
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Yea I am amazed that people in media take this shit literally.

It means the QB is the head of the snake and shut him down and the entire offense (the body) goes down.

This is a great example of something being manipulated to mean something different than the intention so it can fit the agenda being driven.

Kind of like what happens on CP daily.
No shit. Its like if a DC told his LB to "take the Rb out of the picture on such and such play" that "He's implying murder!! Ban him!!"
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:00 PM   #42
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defense should be played wide-open .. if not .. go play some golf .....
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defense should be played wide-open .. if not .. go play some golf .....
Agreed. Coaches want their defenses to be vicious, relentless and feared. Doesnt necessarily mean they want an opponent mangled, but if it happens in the process of a big ass hit...part of the game.
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Dude thats uncalled for. Really. Gtfo with that crap. Keep it clean. There could be children around. You jive turkey
If it's good enough for Hayden Fry & Kirk Ferentz it's good enough for me.
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Classless. Gregg Williams needs to apologize on behalf of the entire organization.
They should have given the Saints the death penalty. Just eliminate the entire organization.
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