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Old 10-28-2012, 08:31 PM  
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I actually liked my original Pioli column when Clark hired him.

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Hiring of Pioli puts the Chiefs in the Hunt again
Jason Whitlock

We have no more questions about Clark Hunt’s commitment to winning the Super Bowl.

By landing the biggest fish in the NFL’s off-season ocean — Patriots front-office guru Scott Pioli — Hunt told us everything we need to know about his desire to win at the highest level.

Clark Hunt is as passionate and committed as the most fanatic Chiefs fan.

You pierce your costume with arrows on game day, wear red on Fridays, decorate your basement with Chiefs apparel, rock Priest Holmes jerseys throughout the week, tolerate taxes to renovate Arrowhead Stadium and pay $22 to tailgate before exhibition games.

Clark Hunt appreciates all that. But he wants you to recognize he just spent a fortune to eliminate the stench of Carl Peterson and make the Chiefs Super Bowl contenders again.

We thought dethroning King Carl was a big deal. Luring Pioli to replace Peterson is much, much bigger.

There is no way to guarantee Pioli will be a success. The longtime Bill Belichick right-hand man might be as fraudulent as Romeo Crennel, Charlie Weis, Eric Mangini and the other Belichick clones who failed once they left the Patriots coach’s shadow and cashed in.

I like Pioli — a lot. He’s young, confident, disciplined, smart and he’s certainly been in the right organization.

But when it comes to the Patriots and success, we just don’t know where Belichick ends and everybody else begins. The Patriots are like the Jackson 5, and Belichick is Michael Jackson. Crennel and Weis proved to be Tito and Jackie.

Is Pioli the next Jermaine Jackson, who had a solid solo career? Or, better yet, is Pioli the next Janet Jackson, a megastar just waiting for the opportunity to shine?

We don’t know. And we won’t know for a couple of years. We’ll need to see how he drafts, whether he can find a legitimate quarterback of the future for the Chiefs, whether he can hire his own version of Belichick.

(Oops, I’m assuming that Herm Edwards will be relieved of his duties.)

What we know for sure is that ownership is going to provide Pioli with everything he needs to be successful.

There’s no way Pioli takes the job without those assurances. He had a great deal of leverage entering this off-season. The Cleveland Browns wanted to make him their general manager. The Lions were initially interested. Pioli could’ve stayed with the Patriots and waited for the perfect situation.

He got it here. He took this job because he found an owner ready to do things the Patriots way. He found an owner ready to match his level of commitment.

You don’t leave Belichick and all those Super Bowl rings unless you believe you’ve discovered a place where you believe you can do the same thing. Oh, I’m sure the money is awesome. I’m sure the Pioli family is set.

But Pioli has no interest in being Weis or Crennel. They’re laughingstocks. They’re known as football men who were great Belichick puppets and nothing else. One of life’s toughest tasks is recovering a lost reputation.

Pioli has a great rep. He’s risking a lot leaving the Belichick nest. He didn’t do it blindly or with dollar signs dancing in his head.

He did it thinking about creating his own legacy and with playoff victories dancing in his head.

Pioli and Hunt recruited each other. Pioli had to convince Hunt that he had a plan to fix the Chiefs. And Hunt had to convince Pioli that he was willing to support that plan.

For two decades under Peterson’s rule and Lamar Hunt’s budget, the Chiefs shopped for bargains in their pursuit of a championship. Peterson grabbed Marcus Allen and Joe Montana at the end of their careers. Peterson snagged underappreciated veterans such as Dan Saleaumua and James Hasty.

Only once can I remember Peterson stepping out and paying top dollar for a big-time free agent. He gave his football godfather Dick Vermeil a golden parachute. Peterson spent lavishly on assistants and Vermeil’s dream of building an offense superior to Mike Martz’s.

It worked.

Well, now Clark Hunt has stepped out and grabbed the most elite name in front-office magic.

And with this move, Hunt has boldly stated only the best and brightest are good enough for the Chiefs.

That’s just what we needed to hear.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:25 PM   #31
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:25 PM   #32
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I love this stuff. So clueless.

I'd give him the same protection I provided Turner Gill.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:48 PM   #33
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Wonder what JWhit would be saying right now if Pioli was black? I'm being serious.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:52 PM   #34
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I love this stuff. So clueless.

I'd give him the same protection I provided Turner Gill.
And Jeremy Lin? Have a hard time believing you would be cool with a joke being made like that towards an African American.

Either way I don't really care about that. Just not sure the hints towards that are totally clueless. Doesn't matter. Every man or child that can handle a gun needs to be at the front lines, no questions asked.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:09 AM   #36
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I think it's proof that Clark was committed and promised to give Pioli exactly what Pioli felt he needed to win. This proves that the problem is Pioli. He had the leverage to get everything he felt was necessary to win. This season can't be blamed on Clark not providing Pioli the resources. I like this column and I'm not embarrassed by it. Not sure why the thread was locked.
at the time it all seemed like a great idea
he was the executive of the year
now he is the why the **** does he still have a job?
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:14 AM   #37
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At the time it happened, landing Pioli was a huge win. No one can fault Clark for that move.

Problem is everyone thought we were getting a guy that could build a race car. Turns out he's just a guy that was in the garage when it was done.

But now is when Clark needs to shoulder some of the blame. He got fooled the second time when he believed Haley was the problem. How much farther down does he allow the team to be taken before he changes something.
yeah billicheck asks for a 9/16th open end, piloi gives him a crescent wrench

in KC he has been using robo grips and thinks they are the right tools
how the **** does a coach that answers questions I don't know still have a job
5 years in arrowwood to the raiders
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:47 AM   #38
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@jwhit - That thread was probably locked because we have a policy regarding bumping ancient threads without a compelling reason. But there was a good reason so it's unlocked now. I can merge these two without it jacking the flow too much or whatever. Doesn't matter to me either way. For the record, I don't think anybody is protecting you. I mean, we're grateful you threr pioli under the bus, pimped SOC, and kicked in some bucks for the banners but now one of our biggest idiots has put up a grand and he definitely isn't getting any special treatment.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:51 AM   #39
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@jwhit - That thread was probably locked because we have a policy regarding bumping ancient threads without a compelling reason. But there was a good reason so it's unlocked now. I can merge these two without it jacking the flow too much or whatever. Doesn't matter to me either way. For the record, I don't think anybody is protecting you. I mean, we're grateful you threr pioli under the bus, pimped SOC, and kicked in some bucks for the banners but now one of our biggest idiots has put up a grand and he definitely isn't getting any special treatment.
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@jwhit - That thread was probably locked because we have a policy regarding bumping ancient threads without a compelling reason. But there was a good reason so it's unlocked now. I can merge these two without it jacking the flow too much or whatever. Doesn't matter to me either way. For the record, I don't think anybody is protecting you. I mean, we're grateful you threr pioli under the bus, pimped SOC, and kicked in some bucks for the banners but now one of our biggest idiots has put up a grand and he definitely isn't getting any special treatment.
Heh, I hope someone gives him (50/50) a (very) brief vacation just for the hell of it.
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I'm astonished. This thread-locking behavior is unlike that we have come to expect from our fabulously talented mods.

Nevertheless, it provided an opportunity for you to turn attention back to your own glorious self, Mr. jwhit, so there is that ...

As for Pioli, what more need to be said? Pioli has never beaten the Faiders at Arrowhead. Our arch-rivals now own our ass and the keys to our home field. We are once again the laughing stock of the NFL and are establishing records that are, in the era of parity, supposedly impossible to achieve.

Still, it is puzzling how supportive the fans continue to be under the circumstances. Most Chiefs fans would never give an alcoholic a drink or prep a hit for a junkie. Yet they are serial enablers when it comes to Pioli and Clark. Every ticket sold is another reinforcement that the FO can get away with running this franchise into oblivion along with themselves. Intervention is what's needed. If Pioli wants to destroy himself, let him do it elsewhere. I don't want to watch.

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Wonder what JWhit would be saying right now if Pioli was black? I'm being serious.
Really?

My guess is you don't read Whitlock's columns' much?
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Pioli is way too mired in his ways. He is horrible in reacting (non-reacting) to adversity. Even after all this time he is still picking up Belichick's turds and smelling them. He took all the bad things about the Browns/Patriots formula and implemented them here in KC where there's nary a wrapper to be found.
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