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Old 11-06-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Russ Lande says Chiefs should "stick to their board"

Geno Smith has all the tangibles - arm strength, accuracy, athleticism - and has a solid football IQ. He has poor mechanics and footwork. He's super raw and won't be ready to start right away, even in the shotgun NFL. Probably not worth a top 5 pick.

He sees Barkley are the flip side of the same coin - VERY polished, NFL-ready, but tangibles are average. Higher floor, lower ceiling. Would typically be a mid-1st guy (15-20).

He thinks Pioli is going to go with another late-rounder like Stanzi. And he hasn't once said he thinks that's the WRONG idea.

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:09 AM   #31
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When will people like you realize players like Luck are very, very rare? The last QB is his category was Peyton. The other 31 teams have to settle for less than someone like that. Just because a QB isn't on the same level as Luck does not mean he is not a good if not great QB.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier. They compare everyone to the once in a decade prospects and think trading down and snagging some slapdick in the 5th is just as good.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:10 AM   #32
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Take the best player on the board with the first pick. Then use the third or trade aplayer to get back into the first and take a QB. That would be the smart thing to do imo.

It is November and look at how these QBs are being talked about. Their stock will only go down guys. The damage is done.
Their stock is only going to go up they are quarterbacks. Quarterbacks are prestige they are the guys that make or break a football program. RGIII stock was down this time of year then his stock sky rocketed before the draft. These guys stock is going to fluctuate up untill the draft then teams are going be players and make their stock go up just for their position and value. Not worried about their stock at the moment they still got games to play and the combine yet.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #33
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Worked great for Cleveland trying that twice!!!
Brady Quinn and Brandon Weeden?

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #34
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Worked great for Cleveland trying that twice!!!
I would agree that it did. I think they learned from the Tim Couch debacle. They reached big time for him.

In 2007, do you think they should have taken Brady Quinn at #3 over Joe Thomas? I mean they got Brady Quinn at #22 and the only QB taken before him was Jamarcus Russell. Should they have moved up to #1 and drafted Russell?

Last year they got Trent Richardson who might be the best player in that class. They waited around and got Weedan later in the first. Is he that much different than Tannehill? He was also a choker in college and wasn't "clutch." They took a calculated gamble taking Weedan where they did and it wasn't nearly the gamble Miami made. Tannehill's success lies with Sherman imo. Next year, Tannehill is going to suck when teams have tape on that offense.

In the end, one could argue that Cleveland's best two players came from making smart decisions in the draft.

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Old 11-06-2012, 08:11 AM   #35
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Tannehill had the same knock all these guys have. He shit the bed when the game is on the line. He didn't have "it" and he wasn't "clutch." We saw that last Sunday. Could you see the real difference between him and Luck? **** the stats guys.

It's not just about accuracy and the other crap. They are never going to win anything with Tannehill imo. We better find the "clutch" QB in this class or we are spinning our wheels. It's more important than anything in today's game. Far too many games come down to the end and it happens more often than not in the playoffs.
Clutch.

Like Jay Cutler.
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Clark needs to put Pioli's head through the ****ing board.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:12 AM   #37
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When will people like you realize players like Luck are very, very rare? The last QB is his category was Peyton. The other 31 teams have to settle for less than someone like that. Just because a QB isn't on the same level as Luck does not mean he is not a good if not great QB.
Manning won ONE game his rookie season.

I'm sure Bob would have been telling us all that he's not clutch.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:13 AM   #38
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I would agree that it did. I think they learned from the Tim Couch debacle. They reached big time for him.

In 2007, do you think they should have taken Brady Quinn at #3 over Joe Thomas? I mean they got Brady Quinn at #22 and the only QB taken before him was Jamarcus Russell. Should they have moved up to #1 and drafted Russell?

Last year they got Trent Richardson who might be the best player in that class. They waited around and got Weedan later in the first. Is he that much different than Tannehill? He was also a choker in college and wasn't "clutch." They took a calculated gamble taking Weedan where they did and it wasn't nearly the gamble Miami made.

In the end, one could argue that Cleveland's best two players came from making smart decisions in the draft.
Yet we havent made a "SMART" decision in the draft in over 25 years...

Someday we will grow up and become an NFL team...
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In the end, one could argue that Cleveland's best two players came from making smart decisions in the draft.


That's why we're competing with them for the #1 pick in the draft.

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Tannehill had the same knock all these guys have. He shit the bed when the game is on the line. He didn't have "it" and he wasn't "clutch." We saw that last Sunday. Could you see the real difference between him and Luck? **** the stats guys.

It's not just about accuracy and the other crap. They are never going to win anything with Tannehill imo. We better find the "clutch" QB in this class or we are spinning our wheels. It's more important than anything in today's game. Far too many games come down to the end and it happens more often than not in the playoffs.
If clutch is the only thing that matters, we should work out a package to acquire Tim Tebow, yeah?

Right?
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Clutch.

Like Jay Cutler.
The players and fans LOVE him.

He gets a bad rap because of the media.
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Manning won ONE game his rookie season.

I'm sure Bob would have been telling us all that he's not clutch.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:14 AM   #43
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Perhaps we should wait to see who the coach is for next season and what type of offense his OC wants to run and then choose the QB we will take in the 1st round?

Just saying...
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Clark needs to put Pioli's head through the ****ing board.
Heh, he may have it in a glass cage "Walking Dead style" like the Gov. after this season
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