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Old 01-04-2013, 10:20 PM  
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Reid Draft Record is Nothing to Get Excited About
I recognize the Eagles have picked in the bottom third almost all the time, but if you look at this draft history there are really not very many standout names and few pro bowl players.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../phi/draft.htm

The first rounders are especially troubling. While several have been productive NFL players only one would really qualify as a stud. He loves to draft DT 4 in 12 years add in a couple of DE and 50% of the time the defensive front gets the first round pick.

2012 Fletcher Cox DT (TBD)
2011 Danny Watkins OL (TBD)
2010 Brandon Graham DE (TBD)
2009 Jeremy Maclin WR (???Maybe/Maybe not)
2008 no pick
2007 no pick
2006 Brodrick Bunkley DT (Hit)
2005 Mike Patterson DT (Hit)
2004 Shawn Andrews G (Hit)
2003 Jerome McDougle DE (Bust)
2002 Litto Sheppard DB (Hit)
2001 Freddie Mitchell WR (Bust)
2000 Cory Simon DT (Hit)
1999 McNabb (by far the cream of the crop)

Now I have to give Reid credit he seems to be able to get some big names in FA. I would say he overpays and many of the big name FA do not perform up to the level they should.

There is more to like than dislike with the Reid hire, but I remain very doubtful he will ever bring a SB championship to the Chiefs.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:42 PM   #31
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If you have a top 5 pick, you're looking for cornerstones.

Once your get out of the top 10 or really top 15 or so, your looking for good solid football players that have lots of upside.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:43 PM   #32
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:43 PM   #33
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If you have a top 5 pick, you're looking for cornerstones.

Once your get out of the top 10 or really top 15 or so, your looking for good solid football players that have lots of upside.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:43 PM   #34
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I'd give a shit about "Reid's drafts" if he weren't going hard after John Dorsey.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:44 PM   #35
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If you have a top 5 pick, you're looking for cornerstones.

Once your get out of the top 10 or really top 15 or so, your looking for good solid football players that have lots of upside.
Completely wrong. First rounders give you cornerstones. Look at the Patriots, Giants, and other teams who have picked at the bottom half of the draft for the past decade. They are all much more impressive than the Eagles.
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That's why he wants John Dorsey...
Who has been a part of one of the better drafting teams out there in Green Bay
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Completely wrong. First rounders give you cornerstones. Look at the Patriots, Giants, and other teams who have picked at the bottom half of the draft for the past decade. They are all much more impressive than the Eagles.
Who do you think are the Pats cornerstones? Giants?
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So the Giants don't get cornerstone players in:
JPP, Aukumara (sp), Nicks, David Wilson,Kenny Phillips, Aaron Ross, Shockey, Will Allen
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Pats got Mankins and Wilfork outside the top 20. Two really good picks. Other than that, it's been meh.
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Ummm I acknowledged this fact. You should still have better quality than this. Compare it to the Patriots 1st rounders. Patriots >>>>>>> Eagles
And yet even after all those hits and only 1 stud... He still has 9 playoff appearances. Your attempt to discredit our new coach has failed.
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Pats got Mankins and Wilfork outside the top 20. Two really good picks. Other than that, it's been meh.
The Patriot Way is a ****ing farce. Has that not been established at this point?

There is no bigger advocate of draft value on this forum than me, but it's exponentially foolish to get out of the first round without a high-quality player. Thus, we might want to qualify our claims about first-round musts just a bit.
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Mankins, Wilfolk, Ty Warren, Merriweather, Mayo, Seymour.

These look a little better than Andy's group.
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