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Old 04-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #1
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That is your opinion but not fact. Others will believe that Joeckel will do more than good his rookie year. He is a very polished prospect.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:38 AM   #2
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That is your opinion but not fact. Others will believe that Joeckel will do more than good his rookie year. He is a very polished prospect.
You know who else was a very polished prospect?

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Old 04-02-2013, 01:22 PM   #3
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That is your opinion but not fact. Others will believe that Joeckel will do more than good his rookie year. He is a very polished prospect.
Can a prospect from Texas A&M really be a polished prospect?

I would rather see the Chiefs keep Albert and draft Joeckel letting him play RT as a rookie. When Albert leaves next year move Joeckel to the left side and find another RT. By then Stephenson might be ready to take the starting RT role.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:43 PM   #4
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That is your opinion but not fact. Others will believe that Joeckel will do more than good his rookie year. He is a very polished prospect.
As soon as Direckshun's bitch ass buckles down and comes up with some suitable terms for my bet with him, we'll have to see.

I happen to believe he's not nearly as polished as people think. He's just more of the same in a draft that has no elite prospects at any position.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:12 PM   #5
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I happen to believe he's not nearly as polished as people think. He's just more of the same in a draft that has no elite prospects at any position.
Your not alone. I'm don't see Joeckel in the same class with other tackles taken first pick in the draft (Jake Long, Orlando Pace, Ron Yary). He may be the right pick for 1.1, but I don't believe he is as ready as the pundits are claiming. The last time a quality OT prospect from Texas A&M did well in the NFL was Rex Tucker in 1999. Next best was Corey Clark in 2008. How much is Joeckel a product of Johnny Manziel?
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:58 PM   #6
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Your not alone. I'm don't see Joeckel in the same class with other tackles taken first pick in the draft (Jake Long, Orlando Pace, Ron Yary). He may be the right pick for 1.1, but I don't believe he is as ready as the pundits are claiming. The last time a quality OT prospect from Texas A&M did well in the NFL was Rex Tucker in 1999. Next best was Corey Clark in 2008. How much is Joeckel a product of Johnny Manziel?
Or visa versa
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:36 AM   #7
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Still was a quality part. Who was the one limiting turnovers to allow the big weapons to succeed?
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:44 AM   #8
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Let's not act like tackles are super safe picks.

Jason Brown, Robert Gallery, Levi Brown, Mike Williams, Kenyatta Walker, and Tony Ugoh all agree with this.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:46 AM   #9
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:07 AM   #10
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What? You said that Joeckel was a "very polished prospect." Everyone of those names that I gave were also "very polished prospects." The tackle is not a safe position, neither is the QB. However, the QB is much more important than a tackle. The best thing this team can do for its long-term success is taking a chance on a QB with the pick and grooming him for the future, while keeping the very good LT that it already has.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:25 AM   #11
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What? You said that Joeckel was a "very polished prospect." Everyone of those names that I gave were also "very polished prospects." The tackle is not a safe position, neither is the QB. However, the QB is much more important than a tackle. The best thing this team can do for its long-term success is taking a chance on a QB with the pick and grooming him for the future, while keeping the very good LT that it already has.
The tackle is a safer prospect though so it's not as clear cut as you seem to be trying to make it. And in addition to that, you have to factor in the evaluation of the actual individuals you're choosing between.

The reason the tackle is safer, is because when an LT busts, you can usually turn him into a serviceable player either at RT or as a G. When a QB busts, he sits on the bench or gets drummed out of the league altogether.

Beyond that, it's possible that the Chiefs see Geno as a high bust probability and Joeckle as a low bust probability based on their individual characteristics.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:51 AM   #12
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Direckshun,
Problem is nobody wants Geno enough to trade with the Chiefs. They're betting that he will be there when they pick. If I were in thier position, I'd be following the same strategy.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:54 AM   #13
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What exactly is it about Albert's style of play that Reid doesn't like?
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:58 AM   #14
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What exactly is it about Albert's style of play that Reid doesn't like?
Where does it say this?

I was under the impression that Reid was a fan.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:59 AM   #15
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What exactly is it about Albert's style of play that Reid doesn't like?
Albert can't hold blocks and it's because he lacks those type techniques.
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