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Old 04-26-2013, 09:49 AM  
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Expectations for Fisher

So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:16 AM   #31
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Andy Reid is going to run all over teams and control the clock? Have you ever watched football before?
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:17 AM   #32
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What he needs to be to not be an absolute bomb of a pick - Ogden

What I expect - On a similar plane as Albert with a little more power and a little less quickness. Basically we used 1.1 on Albert when we already had Albert.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:18 AM   #33
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:18 AM   #34
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He absolutely has more upside to be much better than Albert.


I don't like this at all, but lets not get carried away.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:19 AM   #35
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:20 AM   #36
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I remember when Jason Smith was talking about how much of a mean streak he had and how scouts and executives fell in love with him.

Fisher talked a lot about his mean streak, but one of the most consistent dings on his scouting report is a lack of a nasty demeanor and a mean streak.

He's talked a lot about how he's a mauler, but has he actually shown it?

Looks like a finesse LT to me. Similar to Jason Peters. He'll likely be an excellent pass protector and a 'meh' run blocker just based on his frame and demeanor.
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:21 AM   #37
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Considering other than Jake Long, the other two tackles taken #1 are Hall of Famers. Wouldn't you expect that?
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:25 AM   #38
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:26 AM   #39
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We are going to fun all over teams, control the clock and give our defense more than 2 minutes at a time to get a drink and catch their breath like last year.

I think Charles will put up Priest type numbers this year.
I think he will be worse than Albert year 1-2 hopefully gets Smiff enough time to throw that we can move on without excuses for his mediocrity.

By year 3-4 he should be as good as Albert is now with maybe a tiny bit of improvement and then after that an improvement.

So we will be worse for a few years then maybe a bit better.
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Year 1 - needs to be as good as Albert by mid-season
Year 2 - Pro Bowl
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Second Contract - Perennial All-Pro and anchor to a championship caliber line in front of a SB caliber QB.

Less than that will be disappointing and should be viewed as disappointing.
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What he needs to be to not be an absolute bomb of a pick - Ogden

What I expect - On a similar plane as Albert with a little more power and a little less quickness. Basically we used 1.1 on Albert when we already had Albert.
Oh c'mon - Fisher is going to be much quicker than Albert.

I think some folks are really understating Fisher's potential because they don't like that we went tackle.

He's a great athlete that has plus strength for his weight (as opposed to Joeckel, who's strength is below what someone with his size should be). He's going to add a little more bulk and probably play in the 315-325 range. And while I'm with Hamas in that I'm not sure I ever see that 'mean streak' so many talk about, he's simply an incredible athlete for someone his size and his body suggests that he will be damn strong as well.

Fisher has everything you'd want in a LT apart from the mammoth frame that Ogden had. In the end, it's neither impossible or unlikely that he could end up similar to Pace in terms of size and athleticism. Pace also had amazing technique and that will be what ultimately decides Fisher's fate. If he can develop the kind of technique that Pace had, he could approach that class of tackle.
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