GForce chip? Anybody use one on their autos?

[ROYC75]

Has anybody used the GForce Performance chip in your auto?

Does it work? Does it increase your performance and fuel mileage?

www.gfchips.com/

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Save your money Roy.

+1

[Jimmya]

There are quite a bit of people using chips and programmers for their vehicles these days. Many swear by them. I'm curious about the programmers for my 2013 f250.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Hamwallet

My 335xi picked up over 50HP at the wheels with a tune. Twin turbo 6's are a good time. MPG is up as long as I stay out of it, which is pretty much never...

That's nothing. My Jeep picked up 20 RWHP just by putting this sticker on the hood.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Jimmya

There are quite a bit of people using chips and programmers for their vehicles these days. Many swear by them. I'm curious about the programmers for my 2013 f250.

Just generally speaking, but unless you’ve done some work to increase the flow of air into and/or exhaust out of the engine a programmer isn’t going to do you much, if any, good. The manufacturers do a pretty good job of setting the engine parameters for a stock engine. It’s when you modify it beyond stock that a programmer starts to become useful.

[Warpaint69]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Just generally speaking, but unless you’ve done some work to increase the flow of air into and/or exhaust out of the engine a programmer isn’t going to do you much, if any, good. The manufacturers do a pretty good job of setting the engine parameters for a stock engine. It’s when you modify it beyond stock that a programmer starts to become useful.

What I highlighted is the fact of performance, what goes in has to equally be able to come out.

Also, you have to keep in mind as a consumer if a chip/hand held tuner alters the factory tune it will show up when the computer is flashed and you can pretty much kiss any warranty you have good bye on newer vehicles.

I've seen diesel engines with chips to have premature head gasket failure due to the increased boost.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Just generally speaking, but unless you’ve done some work to increase the flow of air into and/or exhaust out of the engine a programmer isn’t going to do you much, if any, good. The manufacturers do a pretty good job of setting the engine parameters for a stock engine. It’s when you modify it beyond stock that a programmer starts to become useful.

This.

Tunning is something you do once you've added other modifiers because it's sometimes required with increased air/fuel. I mean, if you're just adding a new air intake and some exhaust mods, it probably doesn't need it.

Otherwise, the factory settings are about as dialed in as it gets.

[Warpaint69]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

Tunning is something you do once you've added other modifiers because it's sometimes required with increased air/fuel. I mean, if you're just adding a new air intake and some exhaust mods, it probably doesn't need it.

Otherwise, the factory settings are about as dialed in as it gets.

For the most part this is correct. There are subtle things that can be done such as shift points on an automatic transmission to improve drive ability and adjusting the fuel air mixture tune, I know like my car for instance is set to the rich side by GM.

If you put headers on a newer vehicle you can pretty much be prepared to have to get the car tuned. Its eventually going to throw a CEL because the O2 sensors aren't going to read the exhaust correctly due to the increased exhaust flow over manifolds.

For instance changing to a 3 inch cat back exhaust is only going to improve sound quality, only performance improvements will come with headers with some high flow cats behind them. Most stock exhausts flow pretty well, but are somewhat restrictive to suppress for noise.

Removing the stock air box for an after market cold air intake will provide some varying increases in HP and Torque. For all intents and purposes stock air boxes flow well, but are also baffled to suppress noise during acceleration.

[ShortRoundChief]

If by Gforce you mean the hampsters from the movie then yes. Yes, I do have hampsters under my hood.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Save your money Roy.

Oh, I already had this in mind. A friend told me about it and swore it is the best think for his PU.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Just generally speaking, but unless you’ve done some work to increase the flow of air into and/or exhaust out of the engine a programmer isn’t going to do you much, if any, good. The manufacturers do a pretty good job of setting the engine parameters for a stock engine. It’s when you modify it beyond stock that a programmer starts to become useful.

We had good luck on commercial diesel engines due to air intake on the turbo's, etc.

I was skeptical on passenger vehicles.

[Time's Yours]

Originally Posted by loochy

yeah, but that was probably a REAL tune and it was on an already turbod car. I'm sure it wasn't a "one chip fits all makes and models" tune.

FWIW, my car picked up about the same with a tune THAT WAS CUSTOMIZED FOR MY CAR...and it definitely didn't cost $70.

The installation instructions make it clear: it plugs only into the intake air temp sensor wire. There is no way altering the signal from the intake air temperature sensor in any way could do what this claims.

[LiveSteam]

Shame on you Gear Heads? Your causing Climate change.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

This.

Tunning is something you do once you've added other modifiers because it's sometimes required with increased air/fuel. I mean, if you're just adding a new air intake and some exhaust mods, it probably doesn't need it.

Otherwise, the factory settings are about as dialed in as it gets.

I think the exception to this is factory tuned turbo cars. My 2011 STI dyno'd 230hp/260tq at the wheels. Added a cobb accessport stage 0, which just leans the fuel out a bit and holds boost a bit longer, and was able to get 255hp/300tq. That was just the out of box map from cobb stage 0, no 'extra' tuning, just flashed and dyno'd. The WRX and STI are notorious for running rich as hell from the factory.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Fish

I'd buy 3 or 4 of them, and connect them all together. You'll get like 100 mpg.

And overclock those bad boys!

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

I think the exception to this is factory tuned turbo cars. My 2011 STI dyno'd 230hp/260tq at the wheels. Added a cobb accessport stage 0, which just leans the fuel out a bit and holds boost a bit longer, and was able to get 255hp/300tq. That was just the out of box map from cobb stage 0, no 'extra' tuning, just flashed and dyno'd. The WRX and STI are notorious for running rich as hell from the factory.

STI or WRX? Aren't the STI's supposed to come from the factory with 300hp?