A quick poll about the future of American Civilization.

[Bugeater]

Too much dead weight to be sustainable.

[tmax63]

I see the US as declining. Back post WW-II single wage earners raised a family on one paycheck and family values/ right/wrong were taught in the home. As the economy has over the past 50 years gotten to where it takes 2 paychecks to be even close to the same standard of living, kids are now learning morals, respect, behavior, etc. that should be taught in a stable home everywhere but at home. I feel sorry for today's kids who are going to be saddled the entitlement debt that today's politicians are giving out to buy election/re-election and the inter-generational grief coming when the young folks quit paying the IOU's to old folks.

[LiveSteam]

I'll give my opinion about America, when I get back from vacationing in Detroit

[Randallflagg]

I have to be completely honest here. I'm an old guy and seems like everyday I'm reminded that this is NOT the country I grew up in. Things change and I understand that. However, and it's only my opinion, but as Richard Pryor once said, "Shit rolling downhill fast now!"

[teedubya]

The bread is running out... and the circuses bore me.

Definitely nearing the end.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by teedubya

The bread is running out... and the circuses bore me.

Definitely nearing the end.

[MahiMike]

We are #70 in healthcare in the world. We are way past descending.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

We are #70 in healthcare in the world. We are way past descending.

That doesn't mean shit. Survival of the fittest.

Frankly, the herd needs culling.

[teedubya]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...nger-democracy

Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy, but an Oligarchy.

Yeah, Descending. WAYYYY Descending.

[Deberg_1990]

Doesn't matter. God will end us with a meteor soon

/Pat Robertson
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[hometeam]

My grandparents raised a middle class family on a single blue collar income, including OWNING a house and land, and retirement, plus some.


Cant be done now.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by hometeam

My grandparents raised a middle class family on a single blue collar income, including OWNING a house and land, and retirement, plus some.


Cant be done now.

The issue with these types of statements is that they ignore that our perceptions about what a quality life is have changed dramatically compared to the "good old days". Cut the average house size in half, fix your own car, stop eating out, grow food in a garden, get rid of cable, internet, etc., and it wouldn't be as hard as you'd think. Sure, you'd be bored out of your mind, but people used to be perfectly content with sitting around and telling stories and reading books for entertainment.

It also ignores the fact that (I'm assuming) you're talking about a middle-class white family. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many minority families who would agree that life was better back then than it is now.

[Easy 6]

So, just be cool with an upcoming austerity program for the most industrious nation on earth, DaFace?

Not trying to be a smart alice, just wondering why one of the worlds true superpowers, and one of its honest to God most hardworking as far as hours per week and standards that are expected to be met, why are we expected to just "deal with it".

This nations tax dollars, compiled by the worlds most exacting tax system that ensures everyone pays their share (LOL), this nation that gives more to every disaster around the world by a factor of 10... why should we just suffer through the loss of jobs that helped make us strong in the first place?

We give and give and give... yet when this nation needs help its just "welp, time to tighten your belts John Boy", make due with beans and pigs feet 7 days a week like my grandparents did in the depression?

Its globalism and I'm tired of it, a lot of other people are as well... America seems to have become a big fat titty to suck on.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by scott free

So, just be cool with an upcoming austerity program for the most industrious nation on earth, DaFace?

Not trying to be a smart alice, just wondering why one of the worlds true superpowers, and one of its honest to God most hardworking as far as hours per week and standards that are expected to be met, why are we expected to just "deal with it".

This nations tax dollars, compiled by the worlds most exacting tax system that ensures everyone pays their share (LOL), this nation that gives more to every disaster around the world by a factor of 10... why should we just suffer through the loss of jobs that helped make us strong in the first place?

We give and give and give... yet when this nation needs help its just "welp, time to tighten your belts John Boy", make due with beans and pigs feet 7 days a week like my grandparents did in the depression?

Its globalism and I'm tired of it, a lot of other people are as well... America seems to have become a big fat titty to suck on.

It's kinda funny to me, to see what the US has created and how people perceive it. We've created a nation with one of the highest standards of living in the world. Where the overwhelming majority never actually experiences true poverty or hunger. A nation where those in "Poverty" still own such pleasures as cars, TVs with hundreds of channels, Xbox/PS3, smartphones, etc. A nation where everyone has health care no matter what. We have systems to care for others who cannot care for themselves.

There's very little actual poverty in America. Not true poverty. Those in poverty in America live like royalty compared to some other parts of the world. Yet all we ever hear is people bitching about other Americans getting things they don't think those other people deserve. You hear more bitching of that type these days, than you hear about what we don't have. Yet we don't stop and think about what a good thing it is that Americans don't have to bitch about having unclean drinking water, or moldy and rotten food, or lack of electricity, or no health care at all, or actual real government oppression.

Nope, we sit here on our thrones, and type into our smartphones that have internet access nearly everywhere we go, while enjoying a diversity of cheap food, clean water, organized infrastructure, etc. While bitching about poor people getting a couple hundred dollars worth of free food.

America has become a nation of selfish unappreciative assholes who bitch all day while never realizing how easy of a life they live compared with much of the rest of the world.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Fish

It's kinda funny to me, to see what the US has created and how people perceive it. We've created a nation with one of the highest standards of living in the world. Where the overwhelming majority never actually experiences true poverty or hunger. A nation where those in "Poverty" still own such pleasures as cars, TVs with hundreds of channels, Xbox/PS3, smartphones, etc. A nation where everyone has health care no matter what. We have systems to care for others who cannot care for themselves.

There's very little actual poverty in America. Not true poverty. Those in poverty in America live like royalty compared to some other parts of the world. Yet all we ever hear is people bitching about other Americans getting things they don't think those other people deserve. You hear more bitching of that type these days, than you hear about what we don't have. Yet we don't stop and think about what a good thing it is that Americans don't have to bitch about having unclean drinking water, or moldy and rotten food, or lack of electricity, or no health care at all, or actual real government oppression.

Nope, we sit here on our thrones, and type into our smartphones that have internet access nearly everywhere we go, while enjoying a diversity of cheap food, clean water, organized infrastructure, etc. While bitching about poor people getting a couple hundred dollars worth of free food.

America has become a nation of selfish unappreciative assholes who bitch all day while never realizing how easy of a life they live compared with much of the rest of the world.

Solid post. Would read again.