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Old 05-11-2014, 02:12 AM  
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6 Picks In This Draft And Odds Are Not a Single One Will Start This Year

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Old 05-11-2014, 08:17 AM   #31
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I kind of like not reaching for need and having to force or depend on our #1 pick to be a difference maker from day one. That doesn't mean he can't be a difference maker just that we don't have to depend on it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:19 AM   #32
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Do we still worry about "who starts???" How rec soccer of you, OP.

The draft picks from this year will be in the mix and several will get significant snaps. That's how it goes with teams that make the playoffs. Most are drafting late and most aren't drafting immediate starters. There are exceptions to the rule, but that's the case most of the time.

Thomas will see the field early, so will Dee. We'll see how it goes with the other guys. What is pretty amazing is that I think all of the picks will make the team.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:22 AM   #33
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:25 AM   #34
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The funniest thing is this place whined for YEARS about not taking playmakers. They do it and now they should a stocked the trenches or reached for a guy just to throw at receiver.
Damn, you are stroking it today.


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Old 05-11-2014, 08:26 AM   #35
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KC plays so many sub packages that Forf will have the chance to get significant snaps - if he can stay healthy
If he adds a half dozen sacks and double amount of hurries it will have an impact.

On offense it's all about the QB's. It's the most vital position.

The most vital position on defense is pass rushers, and you need a lot of them.

Coughlin has been drafting 'depth' pass rushers for nearly a decade. He doesn't wait until he NEEDS one to get another. No matter how much you kid yourself it was that pass rush, and not Eli Manning, that brought home two super bowl trophies by stifling a HOF QB. You can't have too many pass rushers.

If we can't get him on the field there's only two reasons. 1. He can't play (sucks or injured) or 2. Sutton can't manage his packages.

Coughlin managed to get Tuck, Strahan, Osi, and Kiwanuka on the field at the same time.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:27 AM   #36
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The Chiefs are better now than they were a week ago. and I'm not a big fan of aaron murray but he could be the next Tom Brady, just maybe.
I just don't see how we got a starting NFL QB in the 5th round, the best draft pick value of a QB since Brady? That kind of shit just doesn't happen to the Chiefs.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:27 AM   #37
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There is nothing wrong with having high hopes for the players the Cheaps selected in the draft but some of you are going way overboard...

Now if you need an Unbiased voice in this argument to help you understand how good your player is vs how good you think he is, just feel free to ask me, I will answer you honestly.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:27 AM   #38
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:33 AM   #39
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Could use Fran Tarkenton or our own Len Dawson if you want?
There aren't many here that are old enough to have seen either of those guys.

I have, in the past,however, drawn a comparison between Lenny and Drew Brees, and more recently compared Manziel to Tarkenton.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:34 AM   #40
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I honestly hate that literally everyone has to reference Drew Brees when they are talking about these short ass qbs
Why? Two of the top 10 QB's in the NFL are under six feet. It's just a reality.

I know drew is listed as six feet... but he's not.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:36 AM   #41
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There is nothing wrong with having high hopes for the players the Cheaps selected in the draft but some of you are going way overboard...

Now if you need an Unbiased voice in this argument to help you understand how good your player is vs how good you think he is, just feel free to ask me, I will answer you honestly.
The same offer is there for you, too.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:36 AM   #42
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The first and second rounds should be about both this year, and the future.
Our first round pick is going to play a lot of snaps this year if he's healthy.

The 3rd rounder will see the field too.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:37 AM   #43
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I get that we needed a Safety.

But the way people are talking, they would have considered this draft to be a huge success if we got a 50 reception #2 WR and a bunch of o-linemen, and a bust if players like Ford and Gaines become playmakers but don't start full time in year 1.

Sorry, guys. This is the first time in a long time I felt this team was committing to BPA instead of drafting for need. I'm just amazed that after years of complaining that we don't do this, when we finally do it, people are getting pissy about it.
Listen, I am not complaining about this draft, but let's be honest here.

Selling these guys as BPA is bullshit.

The first 4 picks are clearly replacements for players lost, or that we will be losing.

That is fact.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:37 AM   #44
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Why? Two of the top 10 QB's in the NFL are under six feet. It's just a reality.

I know drew is listed as six feet... but he's not.
How can you say he's not 6 feet when he measured just ever so slightly above 6 feet at the combine?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:39 AM   #45
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How can you say he's not 6 feet when he measured just ever so slightly above 6 feet at the combine?
I've stood next to him. I was taller.
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