Who Do You Think KC Will Draft Round 1?

[kccrow]

Simple question. This is truly a who will it be question. It can evolve over time.

My pick is Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami.

Mocks abound have him in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th round. Nah, not with that speed. There's a legit possibility that kid runs in the 4.2s and is a certainty to run in the mid-4.3s.

He's a virtual clone of DeSean Jackson in almost every way. I think Reid tries to strike gold twice and asks Dorsey to reach to get it. Dorsett is a virtual joystick.

I know Jackson was taken in the middle of round 2, but Jackson has produced at the NFL level. I see teams looking hard at Dorsett early. Jackson has had 900+ yards in every season except for his injury shortened 2012 (700 yards) and has broken 1000 4 times.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You think he'd work to re-sign Junior Hemingway, then, as Hemingway posted the fastest 3 cone in Combine history.

The new Terrance Copper. Now with more TD catches!

[Easy 6]

The only thing I'm counting on is being surprised.

"its gonna be a receiver!"

"its gonna be a fatty!"

It could just as easily end up being a defensive end or inside linebacker... thats why mocks are fun, but ultimately pointless, because they're rarely on the mark.

[Nightfyre]

NO ITS GOING TO BE A QB AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRADE ALEX SMITH. /DENIAL

[Nightfyre]

My bet is that we take AJ Cann in the first. I hate it. But AJ Cann will be a good guard for a long time and he is ready to play in the NFL. Unless we address left guard in free agency, I suspect this is where we go.

[O.city]

Who in this draft can be and athletic rush dl in subsets?

Not that we should take him early, just curious?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by O.city

Who in this draft can be and athletic rush dl in subsets?

Not that we should take him early, just curious?

Preston Smith from Miss State and Marcus Hardison from Az St come to mind as day 2 targets.

I'd like KC to look closely at Tyler Davison from Fresno St... he can be the ideal prospect to spell Poe more often.. and has some excellent pass rush skill to be a versatile lineman.

Henry Andersen from Stanford can get after the QB also. Overall, not a deep 34DE draft class. Could be deeper, if scouts really think other guys like Odighizuwa, Za'Darius Smith, and Chickillo can grow into such a role.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

NO ITS GOING TO BE A QB AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRADE ALEX SMITH. /DENIAL

Can I please live in Denial?

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He ain't gonna be there.

He might be the first OL off the board.

I don't think so. Most drafts have him going in the 2nd half of the 1st round..or later. I think there's a real chance he's there. Just a question of Clark seeing him as the best value. Safety, WR and OL are all legit positions of need, and Clark tends to draft BPA..or at least the BPA in his mind. I think we were all a little surprised when Dee Ford became a Chief instead of some OL or WR... both of which are still needs a season later.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by redshirt32

We tried to go D with our first pick last year... at least this player will be playing day one, , OL line stinks

I hate it but I do not see how the chiefs can get away from taking OL first rd, there will be 10 picks this year we need at least 1 of them to start day one.

CB rd 2
WR and ILB with our two 3rd picks

But that's not how Dorsey rolls. Arguing for immediate starters with Dorsey in charge is like hoping the Chiefs trade Alex Smith in the next two years.

I'm 90% confident that we're not going to pick a WR or OL with our first rounder.

[Urc Burry]

I could see Eric Kendricks. Fix the oline in FA. Kendricks in first and WR in second. Let Kendricks play next to DJ for a year or two and eventually replace him

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

I don't think so. Most drafts have him going in the 2nd half of the 1st round..or later. I think there's a real chance he's there. Just a question of Clark seeing him as the best value. Safety, WR and OL are all legit positions of need, and Clark tends to draft BPA..or at least the BPA in his mind. I think we were all a little surprised when Dee Ford became a Chief instead of some OL or WR... both of which are still needs a season later.

I thought so initially as well, but I think he's got the capability of playing LT at a high level in the NFL as well as any of the other OL positions. I'm not sure that Scherff has the athleticism to play LT at the next level (his game is very reminiscent of recent first rounder Bryan Bulaga). Peat would be the only other guy who could go in front of Collins.

I'd love to see Collins there at #18. I think his overall versatility would be a big boon to the Chiefs and do a lot to shore up the biggest position of need on the line whether it be LG, RT or whatever. I also think that he'd be the BPA at that point regardless of position. (I think you can actually do better at WR in either R2 or R3 than what could potentially be there at #18 with either Parker or White as I think that a guy like Vince Mayle is every bit the player that those two are (and he's much better off the line and on breaks anyway).)

I still think that Dorsey ****ed up with the Ford pick. Guy might end up being a talent, but when you are that close to having one or two wins put you into the playoff hunt and you know that an upgrade at either/both the OL and/or WR position(s) would most likely result in those one or two wins versus a guy who's main contributions were a handful of tackles on special teams...eh...

Sometimes BPA combine with need isn't a bad thing versus just BPA on your board.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

But that's not how Dorsey rolls. Arguing for immediate starters with Dorsey in charge is like hoping the Chiefs trade Alex Smith in the next two years.

I'm 90% confident that we're not going to pick a WR or OL with our first rounder.

At this point, it's apparent that Dorsey sticks to his board like stink to a monkey.

The thing is, I'm not sure that this team can afford another first rounder like he's produced the last two drafts, which is, in a singular term, a project.

Both Fisher and Ford have very high upsides based on their positional athleticism, but both could be termed very raw as it relates to their functional skill set when they entered the league.

This team needs guys from this next draft at OL, WR, ILB, S and CB who will be able to produce right out of the gate versus nurse them along for the next three seasons before we see them hit their stride.

This team is close. They don't need project, they need producers.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

At this point, it's apparent that Dorsey sticks to his board like stink to a monkey.

The thing is, I'm not sure that this team can afford another first rounder like he's produced the last two drafts, which is, in a singular term, a project.

Both Fisher and Ford have very high upsides based on their positional athleticism, but both could be termed very raw as it relates to their functional skill set when they entered the league.

This team needs guys from this next draft at OL, WR, ILB, S and CB who will be able to produce right out of the gate versus nurse them along for the next three seasons before we see them hit their stride.

This team is close. They don't need project, they need producers.

What exactly is this team close to? Another year of mediocrity with one-and-done in the playoffs? Sweet.

[kccrow]

Best GMs I've seen go with best player at a position of need in round 1. That doesn't mean to say you go out and reach handily on a guy like Tysyn Jackson. That means if you have two guys very closely rated at the top of your board, you take the one you need.

What I don't get, yet, is the Dee Ford pick because in my mind he wasn't the BPA at his own position.

Okay, I get Dorsey's thought as OLB being an need because you might have to cut Hali in 2015 and Houston is a free agent in 2015. Now Ford, from some accounts was the highest rated player on the board at that time at that position. I had Smith, Attaochu, Lawrence, and Ealy all rated higher, but I wasn't a consensus. Most guys had Ford above those and rated in the top 40. I thought, not bad if he's turned loose on the passer every down similar to Hali, but he'll never play the run like Hali... I didn't really like the pick, but thought I could warm up to it if I saw flashes of him being good his rookie year...

So then I look at BPA. Now I see guys like Darqueze Dennard, Deone Bucannon, Jimmie Ward, Jordan Matthews, Xavier Su'a-Filo, Joel Bitonio, Bradley Roby, Davante Adams, Kyle Van Noy, Marqise Lee... These guys must be rated higher than Ford? Nope...

So the only thing I can say is Dorsey takes BPA at a position of need. Ford was the top rated guy on their board. Same with Fisher the year before. He's drafting for need, its just he doesn't necessarily draft for immediate need. His board also, obviously, varies drastically from what I think.

What I did notice in both cases... There weren't really any top rated 3-4OLB prospect types that really made a difference as a rookie; not Smith, not Attaochu, not Lawrence, not Ealy, and definitely not Ford. There were also several other rookies I thought to be better players overall that didn't make an impact.

We can look back and say KC should have drafted Matthews or they should have drafted Benjamin with a bit of anger, but many GMs did the same thing Dorsey did. It also appears that development of these young pass rushers was the norm. Ford fell well within the norm.

[Nightfyre]

Also, I would not be surprised to see us draft Grasu in the second and let Hudson walk. I know, I am evil for even pointing it out. 5-6 mil in cap space for a second round pick seems like a trade Dorsey might make.