Chiefs Who was tonight's goat? - Page 3

**Rain Man** · 09-17-2015, 10:40 PM

In 15 years of Chiefsplanet polling, this may be the most challenging poll I've ever posted. It's a question without a clear answer, and without even a hint of a clear answer. It's like trying to imagine the size of the universe, or how a mass of cells in a brain create consciousness. But it's a question that we must ponder, because we are human beings and that is what we do.

The polling topic is, "Who had the worst game tonight?"

Poll to follow unless I fumble it.

cosmo20002 · 09-17-2015, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Whomever told them that just being good enough, was good enough.

yeah, that's what happened

ClevelandBronco · 09-17-2015, 10:51 PM

Gotta say (with reservations) that tonight it's Jamaal. When a guy has that much talent, his name should simply never appear in a discussion like this. I mean, all the other guys have inherent limitations that Charles shouldn't ever have to overcome. He should have no excuses. He should never need to explain himself or apologize. The guy is Jim Brown plus, for Pete's sake.

**noa** · 09-17-2015, 10:53 PM

Reid, I just don't understand why Charles even had the opportunity to fumble. If you're going to relent and play for overtime, don't put yourself int he position to turn the ball over. He half-assed the safe move.

tk13 · 09-17-2015, 10:54 PM

You left out billay for starting the game thread. He combined the karma of Nebraska's failure with the Chiefs cursed franchise to create an all time choke job. He needs to ride the pine.

eDave · 09-17-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

But he does suck. Everybody knew that. A jabroni is never the goat, it's the guy who should be the guy who carries the team on his back and fails miserably. It's charles.

Ah. It would seem I do not truly understand the meaning of GOAT.

Appreciate the edumacation Brock.

Prison Bitch · 09-17-2015, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noa

Reid, I just don't understand why Charles even had the opportunity to fumble. If you're going to relent and play for overtime, don't put yourself int he position to turn the ball over. He half-assed the safe move.

Wait - Reid fumbled the ball? Twice??

**Rain Man** · 09-17-2015, 10:55 PM

I generally like Sutton, but what happened tonight? At some point you have to recognize that Fleming is completely and unilaterally the target of the opposing team. At some point you have to give him some help. Even if you don't have anything in the playbook, at some point you have to kneel down and draw a play in the dirt and send someone over to give him some help. At some point it ceases being Fleming's fault and it becomes the fault of the person who keeps putting him into that situation.

The thing that's so frustrating is that the Cheaters were completely predictable. They threw at Fleming on every play. When a team is predictable, they're easily beatable. If you know what they're going to do, it makes it very easy to beat them. So why didn't Sutton (or the DB coach) act on that knowledge?

I blame Sutton.

**Old Dog** · 09-18-2015, 06:59 AM

Charles, Reid, Smith

Lonewolf Ed · 09-18-2015, 07:03 AM

There was a herd of goats.

patteeu · 09-18-2015, 07:08 AM

All of the above, but the most inexcusable IMO is Charles on that last fumble. The top priority in that situation has to be hanging on to the ball. And when you've already had one fumble on the night, it ought to be impossible to forget that.

**YayMike** · 09-18-2015, 07:17 AM

You have to trust your players to make plays. They didn't.
Once they don't make plays, you have to adjust........They didn't.

Once the adjustments don't work, you have to play smart.........They didn't.

They deserved to lose

View Poll Results: Who was the biggest reason for the Flemings and Fumbles Fiasco?
Jamell Fleming. First cornerback ever to yield 800 yards in one game.	4	9.30%
Alex Smith. He's Alex Smith. You know the details.	4	9.30%
Jamaal Charles. Hall of Fame aside, he treated the ball like the dice in a craps game.	12	27.91%
Eric Fisher. I shouldn't have to explain this one.	0	0%
The offensive line. They were beaten by more drug dealers than Pablo Escobar's ex-girlfriend.	0	0%
Andy Reid. You don't pass three times inside the five. You just don't.	18	41.86%
Don Sutton. At some point, draw a play in the dirt to help Fleming. You just let him burn.	1	2.33%
The punt return team. Just take them all of the field and let the ball land unharmed.	0	0%
The fans. They had hope and optimism. You should never hope.	0	0%
Obama.	0	0%
Some other player or coach, to be named below.	1	2.33%
Some other person, to be named below.	0	0%
The Broncos. They became much more adept at hiding their cheap shots as the game progressed.	0	0%
Lamar Hunt. He clearly built Arrowhead Stadium on cursed ground.	1	2.33%
No one is to blame. Because ... Chiefs.	2	4.65%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3038491 VARSITY	Who was tonight's goat? In 15 years of Chiefsplanet polling, this may be the most challenging poll I've ever posted. It's a question without a clear answer, and without even a hint of a clear answer. It's like trying to imagine the size of the universe, or how a mass of cells in a brain create consciousness. But it's a question that we must ponder, because we are human beings and that is what we do. The polling topic is, "Who had the worst game tonight?" Poll to follow unless I fumble it.
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09-17-2015, 10:51 PM	#32
ClevelandBronco I'm with the banned. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $5658955	Gotta say (with reservations) that tonight it's Jamaal. When a guy has that much talent, his name should simply never appear in a discussion like this. I mean, all the other guys have inherent limitations that Charles shouldn't ever have to overcome. He should have no excuses. He should never need to explain himself or apologize. The guy is Jim Brown plus, for Pete's sake. __________________ "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth ..." – Pope Saint John Paul II
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09-17-2015, 10:53 PM	#33
noa Band Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $1315453	Reid, I just don't understand why Charles even had the opportunity to fumble. If you're going to relent and play for overtime, don't put yourself int he position to turn the ball over. He half-assed the safe move. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes, well, he eats you.
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09-17-2015, 10:54 PM	#34
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1722500	You left out billay for starting the game thread. He combined the karma of Nebraska's failure with the Chiefs cursed franchise to create an all time choke job. He needs to ride the pine.
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09-17-2015, 10:55 PM	#37
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3038491 VARSITY	I generally like Sutton, but what happened tonight? At some point you have to recognize that Fleming is completely and unilaterally the target of the opposing team. At some point you have to give him some help. Even if you don't have anything in the playbook, at some point you have to kneel down and draw a play in the dirt and send someone over to give him some help. At some point it ceases being Fleming's fault and it becomes the fault of the person who keeps putting him into that situation. The thing that's so frustrating is that the Cheaters were completely predictable. They threw at Fleming on every play. When a team is predictable, they're easily beatable. If you know what they're going to do, it makes it very easy to beat them. So why didn't Sutton (or the DB coach) act on that knowledge? I blame Sutton. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit. Last edited by Rain Man; 09-17-2015 at 11:02 PM..
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09-18-2015, 06:59 AM	#38
Old Dog Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Central Kansas Casino cash: $4565131	Charles, Reid, Smith
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09-18-2015, 07:03 AM	#39
Lonewolf Ed Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Olathe, KS Casino cash: $10606233	There was a herd of goats.
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09-18-2015, 07:08 AM	#40
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	All of the above, but the most inexcusable IMO is Charles on that last fumble. The top priority in that situation has to be hanging on to the ball. And when you've already had one fumble on the night, it ought to be impossible to forget that. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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09-18-2015, 07:17 AM	#41
YayMike Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Baltimore Casino cash: $1765217	You have to trust your players to make plays. They didn't. Once they don't make plays, you have to adjust........They didn't. Once the adjustments don't work, you have to play smart.........They didn't. They deserved to lose
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