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Old 08-29-2016, 09:15 AM  
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This years rookie class looks ready
I remember Andy Reid and Terez Paylor saying early on in OTAs that this rookie class is way ahead of the curve and how they might be the most "ready" rookie class Reid has had. I was very impressed with them ALL when I was at practice and the preseason games have done nothing to change that notion.

This is a VERY strange class in that I really think almost everybody contributes right away.

Chris Jones - looks like an immediate difference making player

KeiVarae Russel - probably would be in competition for starting spot if he signed on time.

Parker Ehinger - day 1 starter at LG

Eric Murray - sub package "starter"

Demarcus Robinson - hasn't came on yet.

Kevin Hogan - development QB

Tyreek Hil - will be the day 1 punt returner and I think he starts the year as the #3 WR.

DJ White - has played well in PS and might carve out a role that gets him playing time.

Dadi Nichols - undeniable talent in this kid. Has a chance to be pretty good once he adds a little weight. Should be used as pass rush specialist while Houston is out. Just flies around the field and has natural pass rush talent.


I know it's early, but this rookie class has a good chance to be pretty damn special.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:53 PM   #31
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No, no and no.

We're bad or unproven at all of those positions.
Unproven doesn't = bad

The WR's are clearly better this year. It's not even up for discussion.

The CB is a question at this point but it's been a question since 2013, yet they've always fared well.

This is the best line since 2003 and with bookend tackles and a great center, can cover most deficiencies.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:53 PM   #32
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No, no and no.

We're bad or unproven at all of those positions.


You are very out of touch with the NFL outside of KC.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:53 PM   #33
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No, no and no.

We're bad or unproven at all of those positions.
You're right. Jmac and Peters are bad and unproven. SMH
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:53 PM   #34
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No we are not. That is crazy talk. Below league average would mean basically bottom 10 at those positions. Those positions may indeed be weak points, but even they are league average. Start with WR. JMac is a legit number 1. That alone puts us above a lot of teams. Conley, Streater and Hill all flashed enough to be league average for 2,3, and 4 WR. Move on to CB. Marcus Peters is a top 10 CB in the league and DROY. He puts us at average or above by himself. Granted there isn't much behind him, but that can be said for most teams. Very few have 2 or more elite CB. Now if you had said that the depth is below league average, I might have entertained that notion until Gaines proves he can step up. But as a whole, they are not below average. LG. Hmm. Ehinger is a rookie that needs to bulk up. But OL is generally weak across the league. I'm not sure that even with his inexperience that I would rank Ehinger bottom 10. I son't believe the staff does either or he wouldn't be starting game 1. That being said, I would definitely like to see improvement there. And with thee young guys we have at those positions, we may just see that improvement sooner rather than later.So calm down, and stop overreacting.
Maybe below average 'depth' would have been more accurate.

Maclin - stud
Conley - looking like might be a stud
big bag of blah

(Streater has looked Jag so far, Hill hasn't flashed at WR, just returner, Wilson is JAG, Hammond isn't even JAG at Wr, DaT isn't even JAG at Wr when he's healthy)


Marcus Peters - stud
Gaines - might be decent

and a big bag of what the hell do we have

we have no idea what these guys will do past Peters and Gaines. Can Gaines stay healthy? is he 100%?

Young guys have looked really rough. That's why Dorsey went an got another CB and we haven't seen him yet, so he doesn't count yet.

LG - Ehringer looks shakey and Fulton's ideal position is Center.

nothing to write home about
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:55 PM   #35
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Maybe below average 'depth' would have been more accurate.

Maclin - stud
Conley - looking like might be a stud
big bag of blah

(Streater has looked Jag so far, Hill hasn't flashed at WR, just returner)


Marcus Peters - stud
Gaines - might be decent

and a big bag of what the hell do we have

we have no idea what these guys will do past Peters and Gaines. Can Gaines stay healthy? is he 100%?

Young guys have looked really rough. That's why Dorsey went an got another CB and we haven't seen him yet, so he doesn't count yet.

LG - Ehringer looks shakey and Fulton's ideal position is Center.

nothing to write home about
Spot on.

Contending teams don't have this many question marks.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:57 PM   #36
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Spot on.

Contending teams don't have this many question marks.


care to go through the patriots depth chart and compare?
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Maybe below average 'depth' would have been more accurate.

Maclin - stud
Conley - looking like might be a stud
big bag of blah

(Streater has looked Jag so far, Hill hasn't flashed at WR, just returner)


Marcus Peters - stud
Gaines - might be decent

and a big bag of what the hell do we have

we have no idea what these guys will do past Peters and Gaines. Can Gaines stay healthy? is he 100%?

Young guys have looked really rough. That's why Dorsey went an got another CB and we haven't seen him yet, so he doesn't count yet.

LG - Ehringer looks shakey and Fulton's ideal position is Center.

nothing to write home about
Below average depth is a better discussion, and right now it may be. But by seasons end, I expect that to be better as well. These young guys, including Ehinger have a lot of upside. They most likely won't all pan out, but I think enough of them will pan out to the point that even the depth becomes at least league average.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:01 PM   #38
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Spot on.

Contending teams don't have this many question marks.
Right, because the Carolina Panthers had no question marks last year.



Dumb ****ing ****.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:04 PM   #39
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Right, because the Carolina Panthers had no question marks last year.



Dumb ****ing ****.
Nor did the Broncos, Cardinals, Seahawks, and Steelers?

And they all have question marks again this year.

Clay's a ****ing troll.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:04 PM   #40
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And I don't understand how Hill hasn't flashed at WR. If it's a better pass he walks into the end zone on a 70 yard bomb. Not including his 25 yard gain the game before. And he's done this in about a game of playing time
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Just saying. We're below league average at WR, CB and LG.
Not if Conley keeps looking the way he has. That's a good starting 2
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Acker looks like he can fill the corner spot opposite of Peters. I'm not that worried assuming Acker is a solid starting corner.

Losing Houston is huge. We'll see what happens.
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Not if Co key keep looking the way he has. That's a good starting 2
Virus doesn't even watch the games.

It's pretty obvious Conley is going to be the best WR2 this teams had in a very long time.
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I remember Andy Reid and Terez Paylor saying early on in OTAs that this rookie class is way ahead of the curve and how they might be the most "ready" rookie class Reid has had. I was very impressed with them ALL when I was at practice and the preseason games have done nothing to change that notion.

This is a VERY strange class in that I really think almost everybody contributes right away.

Chris Jones - looks like an immediate difference making player

KeiVarae Russel - probably would be in competition for starting spot if he signed on time.

Parker Ehinger - day 1 starter at LG

Eric Murray - sub package "starter"

Demarcus Robinson - hasn't came on yet.

Kevin Hogan - development QB

Tyreek Hil - will be the day 1 punt returner and I think he starts the year as the #3 WR.

DJ White - has played well in PS and might carve out a role that gets him playing time.

Dadi Nichols - undeniable talent in this kid. Has a chance to be pretty good once he adds a little weight. Should be used as pass rush specialist while Houston is out. Just flies around the field and has natural pass rush talent.


I know it's early, but this rookie class has a good chance to be pretty damn special.
What makes you think Russell is ready to play. Not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious because I've barely heard his name.
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Virus doesn't even watch the games.

It's pretty obvious Conley is going to be the best WR2 this teams had in a very long time.
It's certainly looking that way. I'm a Conley fan, i was on his bandwagon clear back when he got drafted.

He still needs to do it when it counts.
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