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Old 09-16-2016, 08:49 AM  
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Philip Gaines Review

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This guy looked really good last weekend. It really shows just how big of a loss he was last year and how much faith Dorsey had in this guy to replace Sean Smith.

Hope he keeps it up.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:47 PM   #31
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I just wish Gaines would tackle. Yes, i read the article and i disagree with him regarding his physicality. Peters is a poor tackler as well.

I like our corners, don't get me wrong. But this might be the worst pair of tackling corners i've seen on the Chiefs in the last 10 years.

Peters doesn't look like a particularly willing tackler. Especially compared to Brandon Flowers, who was tremendous in run support. Gaines DOES, but he seems to just bounce off ball carriers every time he attempts to tackle. Hell, even in the article the final Gif shows him bouncing off (Travis Benjamin?) on that WR screen even though he had a clear crack at him.
Dion Sanders was a bad tackler too. Gotta take the good with the bad.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:48 PM   #32
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Actually, his instincts and ability to find the ball are very impressive. He just knocks down a lot of passes that I'd like to see him create a turnover from...maybe Peters can teach him a few tricks and we will have a young and highly impressive set of corners for the foreseeable future.
He just isnt the natural playmaker Peters is, and never will be IMO

Peters isnt particularly big or fast, but he combines solid amounts of all those with an emphasis on quickness, and innate, uncanny football ability... he is a 95 in Madden awareness, quickness and stamina

Peters is a talented hustler full of heart

If Gaines was Peters, he would catch those knockdowns... but where Gaines excels is that greasy fast change of direction game, if he just stays healthy very few players are going to outright clown him out of their breaks or with straight line speed

Gaines is the natural athlete without the nature boy instincts

Whatever the case may be, you're right... if Gaines stays healthy our outside coverage is in rock solid hands
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:10 PM   #33
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He just isnt the natural playmaker Peters is, and never will be IMO

Peters isnt particularly big or fast, but he combines solid amounts of all those with an emphasis on quickness, and innate, uncanny football ability... he is a 95 in Madden awareness, quickness and stamina

Peters is a talented hustler full of heart

If Gaines was Peters, he would catch those knockdowns... but where Gaines excels is that greasy fast change of direction game, if he just stays healthy very few players are going to outright clown him out of their breaks or with straight line speed

Gaines is the natural athlete without the nature boy instincts

Whatever the case may be, you're right... if Gaines stays healthy our outside coverage is in rock solid hands
Peters is a master baiter.

Gaines is less likely to take chances and bait QBs into throws but he will probably prevent more throws going his way due to his ability to run step for step with any WR.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:10 PM   #34
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He just isnt the natural playmaker Peters is, and never will be IMO

Peters isnt particularly big or fast, but he combines solid amounts of all those with an emphasis on quickness, and innate, uncanny football ability... he is a 95 in Madden awareness, quickness and stamina

Peters is a talented hustler full of heart

If Gaines was Peters, he would catch those knockdowns... but where Gaines excels is that greasy fast change of direction game, if he just stays healthy very few players are going to outright clown him out of their breaks or with straight line speed

Gaines is the natural athlete without the nature boy instincts

Whatever the case may be, you're right... if Gaines stays healthy our outside coverage is in rock solid hands

Peters reminds me of Asante Samuel
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:22 AM   #35
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Not on Sunday it wasn't. For the first 3 quarters the Chiefs couldn't tackle. The corners included.

They were getting to the ball carriers just fine. They just couldn't wrap up. One of Melvin Gordon's big runs came off a missed tackle by Gains.
Defend/pick the pass to your obligation and there is never a single need to tackle for a corner.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:32 AM   #36
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Sauto, you ever make it down to springfield?
You asked if I lived in Springfield, do you live in Springfield?
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:55 AM   #37
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You asked if I lived in Springfield, do you live in Springfield?
I do.

I was asking in the food thread, was gonna recommend you try out hoorman meats. New butcher shop on east battlefield, they have the original store, a small one in west battlefield.

Unbelievable selection. Highly recommend. I wanted a little thicker cut ribeye than they had out so he went back and cut it, let me go back and check out the stuff.

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Old 09-17-2016, 12:19 PM   #38
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Old 09-17-2016, 01:01 PM   #39
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The good news is, tackling for a corner is pretty far down the list of things he needs to do.
One of the big reasons why Denver's defense is so good is because of how well our corners (and safeties) tackle.

I think Eric Berry is the only person in your secondary who is a reliable tackler, and Ron Parker might be one of the worst tackling safeties in the league.

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Old 09-17-2016, 01:14 PM   #40
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One of the big reasons why Denver's defense is so good is because of how well our corners (and safeties) tackle.

I think Eric Berry is the only person in your secondary who is a reliable tackler. Ron Parker might one of the worst tackling safeties in the league.
Steven Nelson is a really good tackler. Gaines and Peters are pretty average.

Ron Parker definitely has his struggles when it comes to tackling, but he's not as bad as you're making it sound, and he's better in coverage than both of your starting safeties.
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Old 09-17-2016, 01:22 PM   #41
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Steven Nelson is a really good tackler. Gaines and Peters are pretty average.

Ron Parker definitely has his struggles when it comes to tackling, but he's not as bad as you're making it sound, and he's better in coverage than both of your starting safeties.
Bradley Roby had a badly missed tackle last Thursday and TJ Ward is one of the worst safeties in the league at moving laterally.
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Old 09-17-2016, 01:25 PM   #42
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We need a solid game from him against fuller. If he can limit him to 50% receptions and <70 yards I'll count that as a win. Osweiler is gonna be chucking prayers to him and Hopkins all day. Safeties will have a valuable opportunity to snag picks
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Bradley Roby had a badly missed tackle last Thursday and TJ Ward is one of the worst safeties in the league at moving laterally.
The Kelvin Benjamin play? I'll give him a pass on that one because of how big Benjamin is, but he's usually a pretty dependable tackler.
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One of the big reasons why Denver's defense is so good is because of how well our corners (and safeties) tackle.

I think Eric Berry is the only person in your secondary who is a reliable tackler, and Ron Parker might be one of the worst tackling safeties in the league.
That's a stupid remark. Parker , Berry and Sorenson are all solid tacklers. Berry and Sorenson are thumpers too. And Parker has corner capabilities.
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:01 AM   #45
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Dion Sanders was a bad tackler too. Gotta take the good with the bad.
No, he was atrocious. Tackler is not the right word for whatever he was attempting.
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