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Old 10-13-2016, 07:45 PM  
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#58 Von Miller vs. #58 DT

Had an interesting discussion at the gym about Miller v. Thomas. Now, to be fair we both agreed that the Chiefs would love to have Miller.

But when you break down the pass rushing, Miller is typically going against the RT where as Thomas was typically going against the LT. We both were of the opinion that DT was a better pass rusher simply because the LT position is usually played by better players compared to the RT position.

How much of a difference do you think there is facing a LT v. RT on every down?
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:25 AM   #31
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I love that he idols DT. But the only way to pass him would not get caught with peds or injury and play 12 plus years. Playing with Peyton and winning a superbowl helps a lot. Jusy imagine what would of been if marty didn't marty in the playoffs.
Von was the reason Broncos won that SB, not Manning. Von also got them there in the Pats game.

The game Thomas set the single game sack record in was a loss. That should tell you all you need to know who the real difference maker is.
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Old 10-15-2016, 11:33 AM   #32
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-15-2016, 12:27 PM   #33
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So what.

Von Miller was clowned by Mitchell Schwartz in a game last year. See the problem with your argument here?

Your logic is not very 'sharpe' on this one.
Von's been owned by Fisher multiple games.
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Old 10-15-2016, 02:11 PM   #34
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Von was the reason Broncos won that SB, not Manning. Von also got them there in the Pats game.



The game Thomas set the single game sack record in was a loss. That should tell you all you need to know who the real difference maker is.

This is a horrible argument.

He recorded 7 sacks. 7. In one game. The fact that his team lost isn't an indictment of his individual ability.
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Old 10-15-2016, 02:18 PM   #35
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DT was awesome. Too bad the Chiefs never put together a complete team around him.
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Old 10-15-2016, 02:20 PM   #36
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Von is good but does plenty on pure strength alone.

DT was quicker, had better feet, more finesse and better pass rushing moves.

Miller is better in pass coverage.
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Old 10-15-2016, 02:25 PM   #37
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This is a horrible argument.

He recorded 7 sacks. 7. In one game. The fact that his team lost isn't an indictment of his individual ability.
Agreed. The Chiefs lost that game because Dave Kreig made one incredible play at the end. It happens.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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