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Old 11-21-2016, 08:42 AM  
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Pioli/Cassel vs Reid/Smith
Are we reliving history again????


Debate.... Go!

*Neither will admit fault in their QB, Neither will make changes to better the team, both would rather lose than be proven wrong...

And crap forgot to add the pole.... NO stripper pole for you today...
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:15 PM   #31
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:18 PM   #32
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Saying Andy won't make a change right now isn't the same as Pioli and Cassel. We won a playoff game last year, so the expectation was that we do more this season.

We've already heard a rumor that Alex will have to have a strong 2nd half to remain here. It's also no surprise that we put an option for Foles next year.

If Alex keeps playing this way I think Foles will be the QB next season.
What rumor?
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:11 PM   #33
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Why do so many people think Foles is a good QB?
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Old 11-21-2016, 05:48 PM   #34
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:27 PM   #35
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Reid is likely going to end up as one of the 10 winningest coaches in the history of football. He has his flaws for sure, but to even compare him to a GM who completely gutted this franchise is a joke.
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Old 11-21-2016, 06:30 PM   #36
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:19 PM   #37
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Reid is likely going to end up as one of the 10 winningest coaches in the history of football. He has his flaws for sure, but to even compare him to a GM who completely gutted this franchise is a joke.
Amazing, he'll be right behind another former Chiefs coaching legend who won a lot of games...none of them being the Super Bowl.

Great, let's build a statue. A monument. Outside of Gates down on Cleaver II.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:54 PM   #38
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:33 PM   #39
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Reid is likely going to end up as one of the 10 winningest coaches in the history of football. He has his flaws for sure, but to even compare him to a GM who completely gutted this franchise is a joke.
Yeah, but he doesn't win the way they want to win, so he's a bad coach.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:51 PM   #40
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Ownership doesn't believe there is a problem.
they use theirs hands on the ball...
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:53 PM   #41
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Let's see..

Pioli/Cassel=1 Playoff appearance, 0 wins
Reid/Smith=2 Playoff appearances, 1 win

Pioli/Casse/=1 winning season
Reid/smith=3 and soon to be 4 winning seasons

I don't think there is much comparison
TE sweep on the 4 yard line
resulted in a 5 yard loss
your argument is invalid
**** OC Andy
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:58 PM   #42
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HaleyCassel=ReidSmith

Haley is the better coach/play caller, but Smith {was} more talented than Cassel.

If Haley had Dorsey, he'd be unstoppable. But Haley wouldn't settle for Alex Smith at QB.

Haley>Reid>Crennel
Dorsey>Pioli
Smith>Cassel

Anyone want to know what the difference between the Chiefs was between Crennell, I would say about 6-8 wins a season.
rathwer se CRAZY TODD with this talent than Andy, wann betwe would have more playoff wins, and a real super bowl shot?
this year lucky to make the playoffs...
please prove me wrong next sunday,
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:23 PM   #43
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Why do so many people think Foles is a good QB?
It's called Kansas City disease. People honestly thought Mike Livingston was a better QB that Len Dawson. KC is the best city in the NFL to be a backup.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:26 PM   #44
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It's called Kansas City disease. People honestly thought Mike Livingston was a better QB that Len Dawson. KC is the best city in the NFL to be a backup.
Yep its a disease. Cause people actually think Alex smith is a real NFL qb also...

KC is the best city in the NFL to be a bottom of the barrel NFL qb.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:28 PM   #45
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Yep its a disease. Cause people actually think Alex smith is a real NFL qb also...

KC is the best city in the NFL to be a bottom of the barrel NFL qb.
This is also true. We shouldn't look at Foles as the answer. There are a ton of promising young QBs in the league. We need to demand better.
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