Colin Cowherd settles the QB debate

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I want everyone to take 5 minutes to watch this video. Colin Cowherd is a pretty bright dude when it comes to sports, especially football. Here in this video today, he explains what separates guys like Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Ben Roethlisberger from guys like Matt Ryan and Alex Smith specifically. As Chiefs fans, it hits every chord.

[JENKINSWINS]

Originally Posted by Servant_KC

Stay on topic and have a glass. You trolling jackass.

I am on topic. The video talked about script, idiot suicide condoner.

[BlackOp]

This dude has creeper written all over him....do people really watch this shit?

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by eDave

No one know what "it" is, but when you have it, you are elite. In any profession.

Teflon confidence that relishes any given situation where the "chips are down" and really believing you are the only person that can save the day because you have proven it over and over and over again not just to others but more importantly "to yourself" which only increases and thickens that "teflon confidence" to relish even more difficult situations with more of that "teflon confidence" that will allow you to continue your success.

eDave, think about yourself and what you do. From my understanding you keep massive computer networks up and running for your customers. You are close to my age so I assume you have seen and experienced almost every kind of computer hiccup to computer cluster**** situation and have handled them all successfully for the most part over your career. Thus my guess is you have developed this "teflon confidence" to any computer network situation that arises to the point that you become bored almost. However, you really come alive(relish a challenge/problem) when the situation looks impossible to everyone in your industry "except you". And that is what we call the "IT factor". You are able to see yourself as "Superman" in dire/challenging situations and save the day the majority of the time and I am not kidding when I say this.

eDave you are the Tom Brady/Aaron Rodgers/Superman of building/maintaining computer networks PERIOD !!

Bottom line: Your adrenaline is either dominated with fear or confidence when circumstances call for greatness. It really is your choice how you respond.

[wheeler08]

BS that it’s coaching. Ever heard of reading the defense and calling an audible? Alex Smith was never a leader and I’d say Colin hit the nail on the head with this. The 3 games, one TD is 2nd half is all Alex. He had no swagger. I think Mahomes has the swagger. Hey Old Spice, bottle that up and put it in a spray can!

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

I think he is spot on. We dont know if Mahomes has "IT" but we think so. We know Alex does NOT.
No offense to Alex he gives everything he has to his team.

But what we do know for sure is that Pat will push the ball downfield with confidence regardless of the rush around him or if he gets out of the pocket he will continue to look downfield and not be afraid to "thread the needle" and that we know which is 1/2 if not 2/3 of the battle in making big plays in big games as a QB in the NFL.

I will go on record now and say Pat has the "It Factor" and not because I am a desperate Chiefs fan either. This kid has a very unique moxy swagger about him in his body language that I know a lot of you see as well. The "unique part" for me that I see is this kid is not afraid to make a mistake and exhibits 'selective amnesia' very well while genuinely having fun playing this game regardless of his mistakes. That's HUGE !! Alex doesn't have fun when the pressure is on whereas Pat loves it !! This is the difference between the two both emotionally and mentally.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by eDave

Gotta have "it". No one know what "it" is, but when you have it, you are elite. In any profession.

He and PTI are the only things I watch on ESPN with regularity.

Cowherd isn't on ESPN.

[Marcellus]

I didn't realize there was an actual QB debate to be had outside of a few morons who act like there is.

[mschiefs1984]

Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

While I do agree with this...



I still agree with this.


This isn't some revelation. Alex Smith is a good, solid starting QB.

He's not a rare QB that can carry a team with minimal run support, critical dropped passes, and a defense that can't get much needed stops.

This is not news.

The problem has always been a pack of fans that look to a flawless QB savior... instead of looking at the areas of the team that are not doing their job.

run support... no? **** the QB!
defensive stops? no? **** the QB!
injured high-priced players not on the field to do the job expected? no? **** the QB!
dropped passes that would have led to conversions.. and likely points? no? **** the QB!


Thank Jeebus there will soon be a QB that everyone here adores... cuz then you can finally stop saying **** the QB! and actually blame the areas not doing their job.

Agree with this. That's part of being an NFL QB you'll always get the finger pointed at you when things are not going well. And also think the Anti Alex crowd gives Andy a free pass as well. It will be interesting to see the change should things remain as they have been with Mahomes how much less blame some people put on Mahomes that they do Alex.

That being said if Alex had stepped up a few times and WON games we should have this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Alex in this regard didn't do himself any favors

[Chiefshrink]

As the ol saying goes, "You want the ball when the chips are down". Pat wants the ball whereas Alex does not and what differentiates a person who has the "it factor" from someone who does not.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

And also think the Anti Alex crowd gives Andy a free pass as well. It will be interesting to see the change should things remain as they have been with Mahomes how much less blame some people put on Mahomes that they do Alex.

How can you say the anti-Alex crowd gives AR a free pass ? That is just not accurate.

Do you really know why the anti-Alex crowd is much larger than the Alex ball washing crowd is ?

It is primarily that Alex "fetals up" when the chips are down. He does not confront his fear about keeping his eyes downfield for open WRs in an attempt to "thread the needle" regardless of the pressure whether it be up the middle or outside the pocket. There is no anticipation in him whatsoever to "thread the needle" when the pressure of the game and the pressure of coming up with a big play is ON.

Bottom line: "At least look like you are attempting and wanting to win".

[Shag]

Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS

So dropped passes is part of being on script? Ok, he fails to mention that. Jones and Wilson make those catches and Falcons and Chiefs win.

1 second half TD in the last 3 playoff games. Alex "all I do is fail in the second half" Smith.

[TwistedChief]

Anyone even implicitly arguing that Alex has “it” is a moron. A completely competent QB? Absolutely. Good enough to win a Super Bowl with some teams? Probably. Good enough to lead a team to a Super Bowl? Nope.

He had a rough beginning in the NFL. He’s a smart guy. It’s entirely possible that he got a little gunshy as a result and ended up - with career considerations at the forefront - morphing into more of a game manager than he would’ve otherwise been. This season he showed flash after flash of a QB trying to take a step forward, but it ended the exact same way.

Sample size is pretty close to statistically significant at this point. Time to move on.

[notorious]

Alex and Reids weaknesses are in perfect alignment. That's why it goes BAD in a hurry when stuff goes off script.


You would think a guy as smart as Andy would find people that mask his weaknesses when it comes to QB and other coaches.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by notorious

Alex and Reids weaknesses are in perfect alignment. That's why it goes BAD in a hurry when stuff goes off script.


You would think a guy as smart as Andy would find people that mask his weaknesses when it comes to QB and other coaches.

This is very true. I also think Mahomes is going to be a great deodorant for Reid. His talent should cover up Reid's shortfalls IMO a lot like McNabb did for a while except Mahomes is way more gifted than McNabb.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

And again, this kinda goes back to what I said yesterday in the GDT for the playoffs.

The stat that seems to unify many of the all-time great QBs more than anything is game winning drives. Look at these numbers on all-time GWDs...

1. Peyton Manning (56)
2. Tom Brady (52 and counting)
3. Dan Marino (51)
4. John Elway (46)
5. Brett Favre (45)
6. Drew Brees (44 and counting)
7. Ben Roethlisberger (43 and counting)
8. Eli Manning (40 and counting)

15 Super Bowl titles amongst them. Only one hasn't won the big game. Many of those SBs won on game winning drives.

These numbers hold serious weight. 2nd half playmakers.