An interesting Mock by Chad Reuter

[KChiefs1]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...baker-mayfield

54. Chiefs: Sam Hubbard, EDGE, Ohio State
78. Chiefs: Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
86. Chiefs: DeShon Elliott, S, Texas
122. Chiefs: Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
124. Chiefs: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

You can rotate players. Plus with Ford's injury history and Houston's knee, you never know. The more pass rushers the better. It just depends on how the board falls IMO. If Hubbard is there and some of the corners are off the board, its BPA.

At 54, I'm good with CB, S, EDGE, LG or DL. I may be the lone one who would be fine if one of the top interior OL prospects fell. I ****ing hate Bryan Witzmann.

But it sounds like Mike Hughes is the top target with how much it's leaked that KC loves him. We'll see how the board falls and when the run on corners is.

Sure, you can rotate players. But not like that. I'm not drafting for "you never know" ..

If they want to take a pass rusher at 54, fine.

But by doing that, you're gonna take someone currently there off the field.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sure, you can rotate players. But not like that. I'm not drafting for "you never know" ..

If they want to take a pass rusher at 54, fine.

But by doing that, you're gonna take someone currently there off the field.

That was only meant towards Houston. But I’m good with whatever they do at 54, which sounds like corner or safety. I’m just saying giving reasoning why you can add a pass rusher this early. Who knows if they keep Ford after this year. He’s been hurt a lot. As for Houston, he’s still very effective but you can save a ton towards the cap next year. I’m not saying I’d cut him but merely stating the possibility. If KC decides to move on from Ford and Houston next year, you slide in Tanoh and the draft pick.

This team is left wide open at 54 which is a good thing. I can’t wait for the draft to see the full plan of this off-season.

[Toad]

I think we can all agree with team needs of CB, S, EDGE, LG and DL will be hard to fill this one off season. With what looks like a minimum 2 year build, Veach doesn't need to play the "what if" game this year. Take the BPA at those positions.

[O.city]

I don't really think they need to draft more edge players, they need their current edge players to be healthy.

They need DL and secondary players.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't really think they need to draft more edge players, they need their current edge players to be healthy.

They need DL and secondary players.

And if they don’t get healthy, I’m sick of seeing Frank zombo

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't really think they need to draft more edge players, they need their current edge players to be healthy.

They need DL and secondary players.

I want DaRon Payne more than just about everyone in this draft

Edit: imagine a DL of Payne Williams/Hill and Jones.


Also love Rasheem Green in this draft

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

And if they don’t get healthy, I’m sick of seeing Frank zombo

Sure, but there's 10 other spots on the field.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sure, but there's 10 other spots on the field.

Yes and they have more picks. They’ll fill a lot of holes on defense in this draft.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I want DaRon Payne more than just about everyone in this draft

Edit: imagine a DL of Payne Williams/Hill and Jones.


Also love Rasheem Green in this draft

I like Payne, but I'd rather have someone with more pass rush upside, like Hurst. Even Settle has more pass rush I think on the interior. On balance, even a disrupter like RJ McIntosh has more appeal

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Chargem

I like Payne, but I'd rather have someone with more pass rush upside, like Hurst. Even Settle has more pass rush I think on the interior. On balance, even a disrupter like RJ McIntosh has more appeal

Payne has pass rush potential. He proved it in the playoffs

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Payne has pass rush potential. He proved it in the playoffs

Don't get me wrong, I'd be ecstatic if we got Payne, just can't see any way it happens. Hurst was more effective and I can dream that the heart issue etc makes him fall.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Chargem

Don't get me wrong, I'd be ecstatic if we got Payne, just can't see any way it happens. Hurst was more effective and I can dream that the heart issue etc makes him fall.

It’s not happening. I’m just saying I’d love to have him

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Yes and they have more picks. They’ll fill a lot of holes on defense in this draft.

I think it's hard to say they'll "fill holes" with mid-round picks, especially with what people seem to be asking for around here, but I do understand what you're getting at.

That said, I do expect a 2nd round guy to be a significant contributor and I'd prefer that guy to be a CB or that the Chiefs package picks and move up for one. I'd expect the 3rd round guys to be rotational players at best early on, but I do believe your best chance to "fill holes" at that point is to draft TE, OL, S and RB. I feel if the Chiefs come away with one or two of those, it would be a boost to the team. Obviously, RB isn't a need but you can concoct any combination of the other 3.

I don't expect later picks to be much more than a craps shoot, but I'd definitely prefer some developmental prospects on the D-Line/Edge, O-line, and QB. Kick in a special teamer if possible and I think it's a solid draft effort.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think it's hard to say they'll "fill holes" with mid-round picks, especially with what people seem to be asking for around here, but I do understand what you're getting at.

That said, I do expect a 2nd round guy to be a significant contributor and I'd prefer that guy to be a CB or that the Chiefs package picks and move up for one. I'd expect the 3rd round guys to be rotational players at best early on, but I do believe your best chance to "fill holes" at that point is to draft TE, OL, S and RB. I feel if the Chiefs come away with one or two of those, it would be a boost to the team. Obviously, RB isn't a need but you can concoct any combination of the other 3.

I don't expect later picks to be much more than a craps shoot, but I'd definitely prefer some developmental prospects on the D-Line/Edge, O-line, and QB. Kick in a special teamer if possible and I think it's a solid draft effort.

Yah, but I trust this scouting department and front office overall enough to believe they can find value in rounds 4,6,7. They have done it before. Not saying long-term studs but they can find rotational guys and some good pieces (rotational guy RNR, long term RG in LDT).

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think it's hard to say they'll "fill holes" with mid-round picks, especially with what people seem to be asking for around here, but I do understand what you're getting at.

That said, I do expect a 2nd round guy to be a significant contributor and I'd prefer that guy to be a CB or that the Chiefs package picks and move up for one. I'd expect the 3rd round guys to be rotational players at best early on, but I do believe your best chance to "fill holes" at that point is to draft TE, OL, S and RB. I feel if the Chiefs come away with one or two of those, it would be a boost to the team. Obviously, RB isn't a need but you can concoct any combination of the other 3.

I don't expect later picks to be much more than a craps shoot, but I'd definitely prefer some developmental prospects on the D-Line/Edge, O-line, and QB. Kick in a special teamer if possible and I think it's a solid draft effort.

I agree with you. It feels like a Corner in round 2 and a safety in round 3 would be two areas where the Chiefs could get a starter and a rotational player. Dline, we already signed all the same guys as last year (RNR, Jenkins as depth) so you may as well look at a developmental guy behind those.