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Old 01-21-2019, 03:22 PM  
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Dee Ford wants to be back guys!!
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:44 PM   #31
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Maybe Tunoh Kassapopopopaga will finally be ready to play next year? What a 2nd round pick that was.

But ya, Ford is simply a pass rusher and not good vs the run and definitely doesn't drop back in coverage.

We'll have to see what's going to happen, are we going to keep Sutton, are we going to stay in a 3-4 type of scheme? I don't think it would be a very smooth transition to switch from a 3-4 with what we have.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:47 PM   #32
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Tag and trade if possible. Nice guy. Had a good year. Terrible error at worst possible time. Feel bad for him on that. But he's undersized and not multifaceted. Paying him a big long-term contract for this year's production would be a huge mistake. Money would be better suited for someone like Trey Flowers. He is much more versatile and does everything right.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:47 PM   #33
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He made a killer mistake last night but we can't let emotion cloud common sense.

Pass rushers are very important in this league and Dee is a really good one. It's a no brainer to tag him and bring him back next season.
How is it common sense to give Ford a massive contract? One can make an argument for it, but it's hardly "common sense". Belichick doesn't give many second contracts to guys on D.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:52 PM   #34
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It's time to just admit they need to start over from the DC to everyone else.

Houston, Ford, Berry, Bailey, time to start over.
It couldn't be worse
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:53 PM   #35
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How is it common sense to give Ford a massive contract? One can make an argument for it, but it's hardly "common sense". Belichick doesn't give many second contracts to guys on D.
I'm not saying that we should give him a huge deal. But I think we should bring him back for a year. He's one of the only good players on our defense. I don't think we can really afford to let the little talent that we have on that side of the ball walk.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:55 PM   #36
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Tag Ford, get Chris Jones under contract. Then use 3 real D-lineman and rotate Houston and Ford one OLB position
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:05 PM   #39
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I don't think they should be keeping him anyway, this collection of players isn't getting it done.

It's time for a complete new start there are a handful of guys here i think can be solid pieces but the big money guys need to be replaced.
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The guy had 14 sacks and 8 forced fumbles.

Franchise him and tell his ass to build his core strength without pushing it (so his back will continue to strengthen and he becomes better against the run) and to stay on the right side of the bell for ****s sake.

He’s this defenses Dwight Freeney.

No way should they let him walk.
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Tag Ford, get Chris Jones under contract. Then use 3 real D-lineman and rotate Houston and Ford one OLB position
Rotate two guys who would have cap hits of ~$17m and ~$20m through one spot?

If you're paying Ford on the tag you can't have him be a rotational piece.
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That's great news......if it weren't for his first years of under-performing expectations and injury riddled seasons and only playing big in his contract year, I'd be all for it.

Given the facts, he did have a good year rushing the passer but is a liability in run support and isn't great in coverage.

if it's a reasonable, team friendly deal then sure. If not...good luck.
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The guy had 14 sacks and 8 forced fumbles.

Franchise him and tell his ass to build his core strength without pushing it (so his back will continue to strengthen and he becomes better against the run) and to stay on the right side of the bell for ****s sake.

He’s this defenses Dwight Freeney.

No way should they let him walk.
He's part of the reason the defense sucks balls...you can't do anything interesting with him because his game awareness is terrible, he plays like he's a functioning idiot.

You know what this team should be doing?

Going to 4-3, moving Chris Jones to end where his desire to rush won't kill them as much and may actually help them in the run do to his size on the edge. Move Kpass and Speaks into being ends also. Then you have Nadi and Hamilton for DT and hopefully a pickup in the draft or FA.

Slide Hitchens over to SOLB because well you have to keep him, make a splash somewhere for a MLB even if that means trading up and maybe see if you can knab a KJ Wright to be your weakside guy.

Then the secondary needs players cause Nelson needs to go...but that to me a start at fixing that front 7.
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It's time to just admit they need to start over from the DC to everyone else.

Houston, Ford, Berry, Bailey, time to start over.
I agree. These guys are damaged goods now. Some physically. All mentally.
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Sutton and Reid cost us the SB.

I'll blame them long before I will Ford, although that was a giant colossal mistake.
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