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Old 03-16-2020, 09:26 PM  
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Late night bullshit: I don't think Chris Jones is going to bring in a haul.

I don't.

Which is problematic.

My read on the situation: Jones and Veach have, together, effed this thing up. I have no official information, because I never do; I'm just reading tea leafs.

1. Jones asked for too much money, and the Chiefs have rightly decided they cannot afford him. So Veach may have been shopping, and the Colts may have been a target, but the 49ers beat them to the punch by getting the Colts' 1st rounder with Buckner.

2. It's extremely unlikely that two teams out of 32 are willing to part with 1st round picks in order to secure an interior DL, which of course is what Jones is worth.

3. And if that's the case, the Chiefs really have two options: keep Jones, or sell him for however many 2nd day picks they can secure.

4. I think it makes more sense to keep him for another year, since a $16m tag is a great deal for Jones when other elite DTs are earning $4-$6m more. It will completely rake our ability to sign any FAs of note, however, and really any of our own FAs as well.

5. That just means we're going to get boned even more next year, though, for two reasons:
---> we'll be moving on to the 2nd year of Mahomes' incoming monstrous deal
---> teams know that if we couldn't afford Jones in 2020, we definitely can't afford him in 2021

6. Tagging Jones also makes inking Mahomes insanely difficult this offseason, which means you give it a go next year, but the risk of not getting him inked grows. And you absolutely cannot risk it with Mahomes: you must get him signed long-term.

I've been Chicken Little plenty of times on this site and been wrong, but this is an instance I see the Chiefs facing some deep difficulties fielding a well-rounded roster next year.

I mean think of it this way: the Chiefs lose Bashaud Breeland and Kendall Fuller (edit: Fuller gone) because they can't afford them, can't ink Chris Harris because they can't afford him, and now have just a couple actual corners on the roster. I love our defensive coaches as much as the next guy but now you're drafting corners for need instead of going BPA because you have no other options.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:59 AM   #31
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:07 AM   #32
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I can't embedd tweets but there one out there that says Jones is close to being on the move for a 2.
ESPN'S Dan Graziano's speculation on NFL Live, he even said afterwards I know the Twitter army may not like this but it's my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:15 AM   #33
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Fesco just said that there have been no inquiries about Jones, none. It's looking like he'll be playing under the tag this year and they'll have to try to trade him again next year
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:34 AM   #34
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Fesco is that plugged in? Hes a damn idiot who went on a rant about Peters and he said to trade Kelce last year and Hill. He talks out if his ass.
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Old 03-17-2020, 07:14 AM   #35
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Old 03-17-2020, 07:19 AM   #36
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:13 AM   #37
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Make him play on the tag if that is even possible or trade him!
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:49 PM   #38
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The CB situation isn't as simple as, "Well, we've got Ward and Fenton..."

Ward started 16 games last year and did a fair job. He's young and was raw coming out of college, so he figures to keep improving. He's gotten paid an undrafted rookie contract in spite of being a decent starting NFL CB.

He's going to get paid after this season. So now you're down to draft pick from this year and just Fenton. And even then, Fenton has only ever played in nickel and dime situations.

I think you have to trade Jones. We don't have the money.
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Old 03-17-2020, 12:54 PM   #39
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The CB situation isn't as simple as, "Well, we've got Ward and Fenton..."

Ward started 16 games last year and did a fair job. He's young and was raw coming out of college, so he figures to keep improving. He's gotten paid an undrafted rookie contract in spite of being a decent starting NFL CB.

He's going to get paid after this season. So now you're down to draft pick from this year and just Fenton. And even then, Fenton has only ever played in nickel and dime situations.

I think you have to trade Jones. We don't have the money.
Ward will be a RFA next season.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:14 PM   #40
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Why would the Chiefs handcuff themselves that way?

If they sit on his cap number for an extended period of time, they cannot acquire FA’s. They either trade him soon, extend him soon OR he plays 2020 on the tag.
If we do move on or extend jones we would theoretically be spending some or all of those savings on extending mahomes and not on FA anyway. So I wouldn't be expecting to be active in FA regardless.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:18 PM   #41
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I can't embedd tweets but there one out there that says Jones is close to being on the move for a 2.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:28 PM   #42
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My god. Buckner just got traded for the 13th pick. It takes two late firsts to get to the 13th pick. Jones is not getting traded for a 2nd. Don’t believe any non verified people. I haven’t even seen us interested to a free agent.
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