Is there a world in which we move up for Kyle Pitts? - Page 3

Dante84 · 01-26-2021, 01:52 PM

Yes, Pitts is a TE, but he's really just a huge-ass WR. Last year there were rumblings that we were very interested in trading up for Ruggs. Veach clearly places an emphasis on surrounding PM with elite talent.

So, that said, if he's available in the 13-16 range, would Veach be willing to move up from 32?

I'd imagine the cost would be #32, a 3rd rounder, and a '22 first-rounder (also probably #32). Basically, the same package we gave up to move from 27 to 10 in 2017.

Note: If EB gets hired by Houston, remember we'll have an extra 3rd this year.

Dante84 · 03-31-2021, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I'm not sure I see a world where he isn't the pick at #5 to Cincy... unless Atlanta does it at #4.

What was silly in January was the thought of KC trading up for him. It remains silly.

Yes - it was always silly, I'll concede that for sure.

I keep seeing Chase to Cincy bc of the Burrow/LSU chemistry, which has me thinking he could slip a spot or two.

I'd definitely understand why ATL would take him, but at the same time, I feel like it would be earrings on a pig since they have so many other needs.

kccrow · 03-31-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Yes - it was always silly, I'll concede that for sure.

I keep seeing Chase to Cincy bc of the Burrow/LSU chemistry, which has me thinking he could slip a spot or two.

I'd definitely understand why ATL would take him, but at the same time, I feel like it would be earrings on a pig since they have so many other needs.

I've seen the speculation but Chase makes absolutely zero sense for Cincy. They already have Higgins and Boyd at WR plus they have an OC that loves running 12P and Drew Sample hasn't exactly lit the world on fire through 2 seasons. Pitts is a far more valuable pick for them than Chase.

If they don't go Pitts, Sewell makes more sense than Chase. While they already have the 11th overall pick in Jonah Williams at LT, he did miss his rookie year to a torn labrum and then missed half a dozen games last year to a knee injury. They signed Reilly Reiff to play RT and could kick him to LT if injury struck again, but they may very well decide to kick Williams down inside and roll with Sewell instead at LT.

As for Atlanta, agreed. The best thing they can do is trade down and gain more picks. So many holes defensively.

KChiefs1 · 04-09-2021, 12:32 PM

kcbubb · Yesterday, 01:15 PM

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...erest#ref=home

Since a productive rookie campaign, Kyle Pitts has not lived up to expectations. The Falcons tight end remains in the team’s plans, but he has been the subject of trade talks.

Multiple teams have reached out to speak about Pitts’ availability, Jordan Schultz of Fox Sports reports. He adds that nothing is imminent at this time. Today’s development is not entirely new, however. Bleacher Report’s James Palmer notes the former No. 4 pick has been “relatively available” throughout the offseason.

After a strong college career at Florida, Pitts faced major expectations given his draft slot. He managed to record 1,026 yards during his debut season, earning a Pro Bowl nod along the way. That campaign only included one touchdown grab, though, and improved red zone production was viewed as a source of improvement moving forward. In different offensive systems and with a number of quarterbacks in Atlanta, Pitts has been unable to match his rookie year or establish himself as a consistent touchdown threat.

Given the Falcons’ decision to pick up Pitts’ fifth-year option, he is owed $10.88MM in 2025. The pending free agent would thus represent an expensive addition on the part of any acquiring team. Swinging a trade for the 24-year-old would no doubt include at least a short extension being worked out upon arrival. To date, Pitts has not done enough to warrant a big-ticket deal or a sizable price on the trade market.

On that point, Schultz reports a Day 2 pick would need to be the starting point for any serious trade talks. He adds Atlanta’s preference would be to keep Pitts in place for at least one more season. The team’s offense also features former top-10 picks in the form of wideout Drake London and running back Bijan Robinson. Expectations are high for those two to continue developing as the Falcons turn to Michael Penix Jr. at quarterback on a full-time basis on 2025.

Pitts has played a full 17 game-slate in three of his four NFL seasons, but since his encouraging rookie campaign he has only averaged between 35.4 and 39.2 receiving yards per game. Especially considering his skillset, increasing that figure will be critical in landing him a notable second contract in the NFL. That effort will likely take place in Atlanta, but an acceleration of trade discussions could pave the way for a swap taking place before the start of the season.

DJ's left nut · Yesterday, 03:57 PM

I'd absolutely listen in conversation about Pitts.

No team control left and likely an expensive extension candidate based on talent and pedigree. But if you wanted to try to find a guy who could replace Kelce long-term with a minimal change to the offense, that's your guy.

**Buehler445** · Yesterday, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd absolutely listen in conversation about Pitts.

No team control left and likely an expensive extension candidate based on talent and pedigree. But if you wanted to try to find a guy who could replace Kelce long-term with a minimal change to the offense, that's your guy.

Is a big extension in the cards? I mean, his production the last 3 years has been fire roasted ass.

duncan_idaho · Yesterday, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'd absolutely listen in conversation about Pitts.

No team control left and likely an expensive extension candidate based on talent and pedigree. But if you wanted to try to find a guy who could replace Kelce long-term with a minimal change to the offense, that's your guy.

I would throw a Day 3 pick at Pitts and see what you can get out of him, and Atlanta would be smart to take that. It's the only way they're likely to get any value back out of him.

Dante84 · Yesterday, 10:34 PM

A 3rd and late pick swap like their 6 for our 6 would be interesting.

Especially if we know Kelce’s money is off the books next year; some could go here and the rest could go to the McDuffie/Karloftis deals.

Wallymo · Today, 05:37 PM

He has not been nearly as good as expected and would be a waste of resources. If it's not Gray or Wiley (and I still hope it's Wiley) that emerge as a strong TE1 I'd prefer we spend another draft pick over paying premium price at the position.

I could be wrong.

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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $4936719	https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...erest#ref=home Since a productive rookie campaign, Kyle Pitts has not lived up to expectations. The Falcons tight end remains in the team’s plans, but he has been the subject of trade talks. Multiple teams have reached out to speak about Pitts’ availability, Jordan Schultz of Fox Sports reports. He adds that nothing is imminent at this time. Today’s development is not entirely new, however. Bleacher Report’s James Palmer notes the former No. 4 pick has been “relatively available” throughout the offseason. After a strong college career at Florida, Pitts faced major expectations given his draft slot. He managed to record 1,026 yards during his debut season, earning a Pro Bowl nod along the way. That campaign only included one touchdown grab, though, and improved red zone production was viewed as a source of improvement moving forward. In different offensive systems and with a number of quarterbacks in Atlanta, Pitts has been unable to match his rookie year or establish himself as a consistent touchdown threat. Given the Falcons’ decision to pick up Pitts’ fifth-year option, he is owed $10.88MM in 2025. The pending free agent would thus represent an expensive addition on the part of any acquiring team. Swinging a trade for the 24-year-old would no doubt include at least a short extension being worked out upon arrival. To date, Pitts has not done enough to warrant a big-ticket deal or a sizable price on the trade market. On that point, Schultz reports a Day 2 pick would need to be the starting point for any serious trade talks. He adds Atlanta’s preference would be to keep Pitts in place for at least one more season. The team’s offense also features former top-10 picks in the form of wideout Drake London and running back Bijan Robinson. Expectations are high for those two to continue developing as the Falcons turn to Michael Penix Jr. at quarterback on a full-time basis on 2025. Pitts has played a full 17 game-slate in three of his four NFL seasons, but since his encouraging rookie campaign he has only averaged between 35.4 and 39.2 receiving yards per game. Especially considering his skillset, increasing that figure will be critical in landing him a notable second contract in the NFL. That effort will likely take place in Atlanta, but an acceleration of trade discussions could pave the way for a swap taking place before the start of the season.
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Wallymo Starter Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $8280400	He has not been nearly as good as expected and would be a waste of resources. If it's not Gray or Wiley (and I still hope it's Wiley) that emerge as a strong TE1 I'd prefer we spend another draft pick over paying premium price at the position. I could be wrong.
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