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**petegz28** · 09:46 PM

As much as some don't want to admit or accept it, the fact is that the high-flying offense we have seen the last few years is gone for the moment. But we can change that if we force teams to defend something else.

1. Run the ball more. DW and Gore should be active in running and catching out of the backfield. Gore has patients and vision that CEH does not.

2. Take the shorter passes first and check down to the deeper pass. Quit waiting to see if someone deep will open up. Dink-dunk.

3. Patience. We ran the ball one drive for almost the entire drive and scored a TD. Next drive we never ran the ball once and punted.

The simple fact is teams are daring us to run the ball and play the short game betting that we either won't stick with it or will **** ourselves. If we quit turning over the ball the rest we can do.

Once we win a few games running the ball and playing ball control then teams will have no choice to start bringing more players down into the box and then we can go back to tearing shit up in the air.

Until then, 6 or 7 in the box should be run or dink-dunk with some PA pass. The RPO stuff might have to take a bit of a backseat for a bit.

**petegz28** · 11-01-2021, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

You guys really want more up the butt runs?

This is the problem with our running game.

We have NO RUNNING BACK on the roster that can get outside.

The defense can completely key in between the tackles on running plays.

That is why our running backs are not as productive as they could be.

If we give them 10 handoffs each a game, that is more than enough. Any more and you are taking the ball out of Kelce, Hill and Hardman's hands.

No. No. No.

The playcalling is fine. We don't want more touches to the slowest, least quick offensive skill position players.

Deal with it.

Yeah, let's keep running deep routes into coverages designed to specifically take away deep routes while we let 6 man fronts just sit there......

We won the game tonight because we ran the ball. We would have scored more had we run it more.

**petegz28** · 11-01-2021, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

He has an absolute shit ton of touches. He is far more explosive with the ball in his hands.

Hardman > Williams, easy.

Williams only gets the yards he does because the defense is so scared of everyone else.

Exactly. So if the defense is covering everyone else........

JakeF · 11-01-2021, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

He has an absolute shit ton of touches. He is far more explosive with the ball in his hands.

Hardman > Williams, easy.

Williams only gets the yards he does because the defense is so scared of everyone else.

you can only run so many speed sweeps

Gore should soon be our starting running back. His vision will allow our running game to be more consistent. More runs should free up Kelce over the middle. Kelce over the middle should free up Hill more.

It all starts with an effective running game. It has since football began.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

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We won the game tonight because we ran the ball. We would have scored more had we run it more.

Reid called 51 passes numbskull.

You want to feed 4 YPC backs like they are Pro Bowlers.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Exactly. So if the defense is covering everyone else........

He had 19 touches dude. You're not gonna give a guy like DW 25 touches.

JakeF · 11-01-2021, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, let's keep running deep routes into coverages designed to specifically take away deep routes while we let 6 man fronts just sit there......

We won the game tonight because we ran the ball. We would have scored more had we run it more.

The defense backs up, we run the ball.
The defense comes up, we throw the ball.

We should have a run/pass audible at the LOS every play.

KC_Connection · 11-01-2021, 10:04 PM

Opposing teams want the Chiefs to run the ball more with random scrub RBs and take the ball out of Mahomes' hands. We do need to be throwing more short quick passes and screen plays, though.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 11-01-2021, 10:04 PM

The way we played against the Bills in the regular season last year needs to be our new identity. This pass happy stuff that is so inconsistent needs to be erased from Andy's memory. Yes, it use to work. We also use to have Conley and Watkins. Even though they were streaky they were a constant thread. Pringle and Robinson the kind of players you run a spread offense with. Andy must realize that. Not to mention Gordon was a ghost once again.

**petegz28** · 11-01-2021, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Opposing teams want the Chiefs to run the ball more with random scrub RBs and take the ball out of Mahomes' hands.

At 5 yards per carry I will take that deal.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Opposing teams want the Chiefs to run the ball more with random scrub RBs and take the ball out of Mahomes' hands. We do need to be throwing more short passes and screen plays, though.

Precisely.

This is why we need a more explosive RB back there.

We get someone with speed it will absolutely kill the Cover 2 look, and we can run outside, too.

Right now pounding it up Creed's ass isn't the answer, but butt****ing morons like Pete think it's 1995 and that will work with a bottom 1/4 of the NFL defense backing us up.

Butt****ing morons.

JakeF · 11-01-2021, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Opposing teams want the Chiefs to run the ball more with random scrub RBs and take the ball out of Mahomes' hands. We do need to be throwing more short quick passes and screen plays, though.

I don't think Gore is a scrub.

We need to do both, run the ball and throw short passes. That will help build Mahomes' confidence so he can wing it again.

Break out the Alex Smith offense

**dirk digler** · 11-01-2021, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

You guys really want more up the butt runs?

This is the problem with our running game.

We have NO RUNNING BACK on the roster that can get outside.

The defense can completely key in between the tackles on running plays.

That is why our running backs are not as productive as they could be.

If we give them 10 handoffs each a game, that is more than enough. Any more and you are taking the ball out of Kelce, Hill and Hardman's hands.

No. No. No.

The playcalling is fine. We don't want more touches to the slowest, least quick offensive skill position players.

Deal with it.

Gore's TD was a walk in TD running it to the outside. Don't know why he didn't get much run tonight when he is clearly the better back.

His name is Derrick Gore and he just scored his first career touchdown! @Gore_D1 #ChiefsKingdom

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**petegz28** · 11-01-2021, 10:08 PM

DW had 19 touches for 112 all-purpose yards tonight

Gore had 11 carries for 48 yards

That's 160 yards of offense out of your 2 RB's alone.

**petegz28** · 11-01-2021, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Gore's TD was a walk in TD running it to the outside. Don't know why he didn't get much run tonight when he is clearly the better back.

His name is Derrick Gore and he just scored his first career touchdown! @Gore_D1 #ChiefsKingdom

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The thing there is he has the vision to cut it to the outside where CEH would have ran up the backside of the line, imo.

ToxSocks · 11-01-2021, 10:11 PM

For the 1st time in years i felt like the Chiefs were more exciting running the ball tonight.

Gore was electric. I expect we'll see him worked in more and more as the season goes on. The quicker he can learn the passing game and the blocking the better we'll be.

The fact is, Mahomes is in a slump. He's struggling out there and no one is sure why.

The defense stepped up tonight and we had several big plays on the ground. SOMETHING needs to get better while we wait out Mahomes. Maybe that something is Gore. IIRC, 11 carries for 48 yards = electric. At least the way he did it. The stuffs ****ed his ypc.

11-01-2021, 09:40 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1115873	We saw the formula for this offense going forward against the Giants... As much as some don't want to admit or accept it, the fact is that the high-flying offense we have seen the last few years is gone for the moment. But we can change that if we force teams to defend something else. 1. Run the ball more. DW and Gore should be active in running and catching out of the backfield. Gore has patients and vision that CEH does not. 2. Take the shorter passes first and check down to the deeper pass. Quit waiting to see if someone deep will open up. Dink-dunk. 3. Patience. We ran the ball one drive for almost the entire drive and scored a TD. Next drive we never ran the ball once and punted. The simple fact is teams are daring us to run the ball and play the short game betting that we either won't stick with it or will **** ourselves. If we quit turning over the ball the rest we can do. Once we win a few games running the ball and playing ball control then teams will have no choice to start bringing more players down into the box and then we can go back to tearing shit up in the air. Until then, 6 or 7 in the box should be run or dink-dunk with some PA pass. The RPO stuff might have to take a bit of a backseat for a bit. Last edited by petegz28; 11-01-2021 at 09:46 PM..
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11-01-2021, 10:04 PM	#37
KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1512783	Opposing teams want the Chiefs to run the ball more with random scrub RBs and take the ball out of Mahomes' hands. We do need to be throwing more short quick passes and screen plays, though.
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11-01-2021, 10:04 PM	#38
ThyKingdomCome15 MVP Join Date: Jun 2019 Casino cash: $-639600	The way we played against the Bills in the regular season last year needs to be our new identity. This pass happy stuff that is so inconsistent needs to be erased from Andy's memory. Yes, it use to work. We also use to have Conley and Watkins. Even though they were streaky they were a constant thread. Pringle and Robinson the kind of players you run a spread offense with. Andy must realize that. Not to mention Gordon was a ghost once again.
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11-01-2021, 10:08 PM	#43
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1115873	DW had 19 touches for 112 all-purpose yards tonight Gore had 11 carries for 48 yards That's 160 yards of offense out of your 2 RB's alone.
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11-01-2021, 10:11 PM	#45
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2013063	For the 1st time in years i felt like the Chiefs were more exciting running the ball tonight. Gore was electric. I expect we'll see him worked in more and more as the season goes on. The quicker he can learn the passing game and the blocking the better we'll be. The fact is, Mahomes is in a slump. He's struggling out there and no one is sure why. The defense stepped up tonight and we had several big plays on the ground. SOMETHING needs to get better while we wait out Mahomes. Maybe that something is Gore. IIRC, 11 carries for 48 yards = electric. At least the way he did it. The stuffs ****ed his ypc. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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