Chiefs Takeaways from the 2021 season. - Page 3

Wallcrawler · 01-31-2022, 11:53 PM

After taking some time to decompress, and come to grips with the Chiefs season ending, these are my takeaways after a great season that came up just short of another Superbowl trip.

1. The Chiefs need a true running back.

RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner.

2. The O line rebuild was a phenomenal success. Holy shit can you name a team that rebuilt an entire unit in one off-season and it worked this well? This was absolutely a championship o line.

3. The 25% of the cap D Line was a major failure. We brought Frank in on a ludicrous deal and followed it up with a massive overpay on Chris Jones. 28th in the league in sacks and pretty leaky against the run, sure as hell didn't get what we paid for. Oh, and Chris Jones? It's been 10 postseason games. Still no sacks big guy.

4. Mahomes has spoiled Chiefs fans. The man set the bar so high that anything less than absolute elite perfection sees him absolutely shredded by fans and media alike. Even with all he's done, the kid is still human. He's not gonna win every superbowl every year. When he doesn't, it doesn't make him any less awesome. In a so called down year, where he was referred to as a "Broken" qb, he still put up numbers most of the leagues starters would cut their left nut off for and went to OT in his fourth straight AFC title game. The kid has never finished a season without getting this far.

5. Andy is still gonna Andy on the biggest stage. He's too old and set in his ways to change now. Whatever improvements are made to the roster, we have to try to get players to play well enough that these situations either do not manifest at all, or become irrelevant when they do. At the very least, we need to hope that in the next big game, Andy doesn't do his best Brandon Staley impersonation and give his kicker the double bird on the way to 0 points. If we could void Andy's authority to use timeouts as well, we could only improve and be better for it.

6. The 17th game and expanded playoffs are shit. Punishing the 2 seed by taking away a week off and making them play a team that likely doesn't deserve to even be there is terrible. We've seen the sack record tied in the first 17 game season. All records now will have less meaning. Dumb cash grab by the NFL.

7. The future is BRIGHT. I can't wait to see the dead weight cut off this roster, and to see Brett Veach get back to work building this team. The guy operates like me when I'm playing Madden. Huge trades, major roster changes, things you don't usually see. What he did with the o line in one off-season, I'm really excited to see what he can do with this defense, and what new weapons for Patrick he will bring in. I really believe that fixing the run game has to be high on his list, and while rb is never popular, I bet a deal gets made for a true rb to elevate this offense back to when smack a bitch up was running the ball for us. Much as I hate to say it, if we had Kareem Hunt against the Bengals, or any rb like him, we run their asses right out of Arrowhead with a 50 burger to nibble on for the trip home. The Chiefs offense will always be the priority with Mahomes, and with what we've seen from Veach so far, I'm expecting a huge swing at it from him.

I felt after this loss, similar to 2018. Like it's not that bad because I KNOW change is coming and we're going to be back.

We got 2 first year head coaches with their new teams in the AFC West, and that idiot Brandin Staley. So barring injury, the division is as good as ours again. Best time to be a Chiefs fan.

staylor26 · 02-01-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

We'll be back and I couldn't be happier to be a fan of this team. I believe in Patrick, in Andy, and in KC.

It's gonna be awesome, dudes.

Man, I envy your ability to be optimistic.

I feel like we blew our last best shot at a SB with Tyreek/Kelce.

Wallcrawler · 02-01-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

The one thing that he doesn't have is a HC that will run the ball with any consistency.

You do understand that a large part of our offense is rpo based, right?

The Mahomes haters will love to pile on with this, but there's only so many times your guy can run into the ass of the center and fall down before you just say "**** it, I'll do it myself."

Reid needs to in certain situations, just call the run. With a qb as aggressive as Patrick, it's hard to ask him to willingly take the ball out of his hands. Big-time players want the ball. It's on the coach to decide who gets the ball and when.

Gonna need to just call the run, and leave the pass option out a little more. We've seen them do it before.

Wallcrawler · 02-01-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Man, I envy your ability to be optimistic.

I feel like we blew our last best shot at a SB with Tyreek/Kelce.

Based on what?

Are they retiring this year ?

RunKC · 02-01-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Man, I envy your ability to be optimistic.

I feel like we blew our last best shot at a SB with Tyreek/Kelce.

Not at all dude. The AFC is still a weak conference. If we get Cincy again we’ll destroy them.

It’s really just the Bills that we should be worried about

-King- · 02-01-2022, 11:49 AM

My take away is that it's going to be extremely hard to enjoy regular season wins next year.

-King- · 02-01-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not at all dude. The AFC is still a weak conference. If we get Cincy again we’ll destroy them.

It’s really just the Bills that we should be worried about

We've said that before.

staylor26 · 02-01-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Based on what?

Are they retiring this year ?

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Not at all dude. The AFC is still a weak conference. If we get Cincy again we’ll destroy them.

It’s really just the Bills that we should be worried about

Our schedule is brutal and we were very fortunate with injuries this year.

Next year is going to be much tougher.

RunKC · 02-01-2022, 11:55 AM

Depends on if the Broncos get Rodgers. If not I think we go 5-1 in the division again. Our away schedule is really not very difficult.

Cincy and Arizona will be tough but TB has no QB now with tons of FA’s, SF is starting a first year starting QB, Texans suck, Colts are not good enough.

Home schedule is more difficult but we are playing at home. It’s not that bad tbh

Dunerdr · 02-01-2022, 11:55 AM

With an 18 point lead at half,the coaching staff failed us. And the playoffs as a whole probably could have used a healthier dose of D.Gore. If i'm up 18 hes the kind of back i want to punish a defense with. Clyde tries to shoulder guys and just doesnt. Gore hits a hole with enough steam that someone likely will be bowled over.

FloridaMan88 · 02-01-2022, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Based on what?

Are they retiring this year ?

Kelce turns 33 this year... he's not going to play at an elite level forever.

Dunerdr · 02-01-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Kelce turns 33 this year... he's not going to play at an elite level forever.

I think next year Gray starts to take some of his snaps to keep him fresh. They made an effort to get Gray on the field late this season.

milkshock · 02-01-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

RB talent or productivity wasn’t the issue vs Cincy.

McKinnon 5.4 yards per carry, CEH 6.0 yards per carry in the game… unfortunately they can’t hand the ball off to themselves and force Andy to actually run it.

no, but if we had a guy who had run for 1400 yards in a season like we had with Hunt, the D would be taking it more seriously and may not so readily jump to drop 8.

This RBBC intimidates no one.

staylor26 · 02-01-2022, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

With an 18 point lead at half,the coaching staff failed us. And the playoffs as a whole probably could have used a healthier dose of D.Gore. If i'm up 18 hes the kind of back i want to punish a defense with. Clyde tries to shoulder guys and just doesnt. Gore hits a hole with enough steam that someone likely will be bowled over.

Clyde was averaging like 6 YPC Sunday, and McKinnon had over 5.

They’re both better than Gore, and the only problem was that they didn’t get the ball enough in the 2nd half.

milkshock · 02-01-2022, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Clyde was averaging like 6 YPC Sunday, and McKinnon had over 5.

They’re both better than Gore, and the only problem was that they didn’t get the ball enough in the 2nd half.

to a point, but with Mahomes you want to pass it.

And with a Hunt type fully firing, the D wouldnt gamble with dropping 8, I think. Even if he wasnt getting that many carries in the game.

Name recognition alone would scare them out of it.

**The Franchise** · 02-01-2022, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Clyde was averaging like 6 YPC Sunday, and McKinnon had over 5.

They’re both better than Gore, and the only problem was that they didn’t get the ball enough in the 2nd half.

That last redzone drive was horrendous. I’m not sure why you’re even running RPOs at that point. Line the **** up and just run the ball.

01-31-2022, 11:53 PM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $2212912	Takeaways from the 2021 season. After taking some time to decompress, and come to grips with the Chiefs season ending, these are my takeaways after a great season that came up just short of another Superbowl trip. 1. The Chiefs need a true running back. RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner. 2. The O line rebuild was a phenomenal success. Holy shit can you name a team that rebuilt an entire unit in one off-season and it worked this well? This was absolutely a championship o line. 3. The 25% of the cap D Line was a major failure. We brought Frank in on a ludicrous deal and followed it up with a massive overpay on Chris Jones. 28th in the league in sacks and pretty leaky against the run, sure as hell didn't get what we paid for. Oh, and Chris Jones? It's been 10 postseason games. Still no sacks big guy. 4. Mahomes has spoiled Chiefs fans. The man set the bar so high that anything less than absolute elite perfection sees him absolutely shredded by fans and media alike. Even with all he's done, the kid is still human. He's not gonna win every superbowl every year. When he doesn't, it doesn't make him any less awesome. In a so called down year, where he was referred to as a "Broken" qb, he still put up numbers most of the leagues starters would cut their left nut off for and went to OT in his fourth straight AFC title game. The kid has never finished a season without getting this far. 5. Andy is still gonna Andy on the biggest stage. He's too old and set in his ways to change now. Whatever improvements are made to the roster, we have to try to get players to play well enough that these situations either do not manifest at all, or become irrelevant when they do. At the very least, we need to hope that in the next big game, Andy doesn't do his best Brandon Staley impersonation and give his kicker the double bird on the way to 0 points. If we could void Andy's authority to use timeouts as well, we could only improve and be better for it. 6. The 17th game and expanded playoffs are shit. Punishing the 2 seed by taking away a week off and making them play a team that likely doesn't deserve to even be there is terrible. We've seen the sack record tied in the first 17 game season. All records now will have less meaning. Dumb cash grab by the NFL. 7. The future is BRIGHT. I can't wait to see the dead weight cut off this roster, and to see Brett Veach get back to work building this team. The guy operates like me when I'm playing Madden. Huge trades, major roster changes, things you don't usually see. What he did with the o line in one off-season, I'm really excited to see what he can do with this defense, and what new weapons for Patrick he will bring in. I really believe that fixing the run game has to be high on his list, and while rb is never popular, I bet a deal gets made for a true rb to elevate this offense back to when smack a bitch up was running the ball for us. Much as I hate to say it, if we had Kareem Hunt against the Bengals, or any rb like him, we run their asses right out of Arrowhead with a 50 burger to nibble on for the trip home. The Chiefs offense will always be the priority with Mahomes, and with what we've seen from Veach so far, I'm expecting a huge swing at it from him. I felt after this loss, similar to 2018. Like it's not that bad because I KNOW change is coming and we're going to be back. We got 2 first year head coaches with their new teams in the AFC West, and that idiot Brandin Staley. So barring injury, the division is as good as ours again. Best time to be a Chiefs fan.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1450389	Depends on if the Broncos get Rodgers. If not I think we go 5-1 in the division again. Our away schedule is really not very difficult. Cincy and Arizona will be tough but TB has no QB now with tons of FA’s, SF is starting a first year starting QB, Texans suck, Colts are not good enough. Home schedule is more difficult but we are playing at home. It’s not that bad tbh __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-2680000	With an 18 point lead at half,the coaching staff failed us. And the playoffs as a whole probably could have used a healthier dose of D.Gore. If i'm up 18 hes the kind of back i want to punish a defense with. Clyde tries to shoulder guys and just doesnt. Gore hits a hole with enough steam that someone likely will be bowled over. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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