Chiefs Bills defensive plan vs the Chiefs - Page 3

O.city · 10-19-2022, 09:31 AM

Josh Allen? Patrick Mahomes? Forget about them. Leslie Frazier had the pen last & won the latest chapter of this rivalry.

With his “spy games”, he unleashed Von Miller & disrupted the KC passing game with man coverage while still protecting his DBs. https://t.co/N9QIqKzFQ2
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) October 18, 2022

Not sure if anyone has the athletic or not but here's a cool article breaking down the Bills game plan.

Basically, they had Miller now and didn't last year and he allows this defensive gameplan to work

staylor26 · 10-19-2022, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Bills left points on the field too. This OL isn’t good enough to win a SB at this point. We have the number one scoring offense, but our D is making every opposing quarterback look like Mahomes.

Oh you definitely put your reerun hat on today.

TEX · 10-19-2022, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Von Miller is the main difference between us. If he’s on our team we win by 10+ and the Bills pass rusher dips significantly.

Even still we had so many chances to blow that game open and didn’t. After watching the game again on the condensed version it looked like the offense is still gelling.

The Bills put a lot of tape out there for Andy to work through for the next meeting.

I think we also win if we switched Tackles and they still had Von Miller. OBJ was bad and Wylie was terrible.

**Bearcat** · 10-19-2022, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Shooting yourself in the foot is part of the game. The interception in the end zone was a bad throw by Mahomes under pressure. The Bills put us into that situation and forced it to happen. You have to credit them for the pressure.

We made mistakes, but they're part of the game. The good news is that we can recover from that loss and be in a position to win it all. We get players back on defense that were unavailable for that game. We learned a lot about how they would/will go about trying to score on us and stop us from scoring.

They beat us worse last year and we made them pay in the playoffs. That loss wasn't a good thing to happen, but nowhere near as big of a loss as if it had happened in the playoffs. I'm not worried about it at all.

Yeah, I don't really get the defensiveness. This is 3 years and 5 games in the making for the Bills with their main priority being to beat the Chiefs.... and while they still just barely made that happen, they've obviously thrown a lot of money and effort into making it happen, which seems like what the article is about to some extent.

Of course, that doesn't mean a quarter of what ESPN hot takes says about the game... Josh Allen isn't suddenly better than Mahomes, the Bills don't suddenly have the Chiefs' number and certainly aren't the CLEAR favorite to win when it matters...... but we can all be big boys and girls and tip our cap for what's it's worth. They won, and hope to meet them again when it really matters.

Hammock Parties · 10-19-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Not on that first fumble.

the bills called that play because of spags blitzes

TEX · 10-19-2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

To beat the Chiefs, and their reworked Red Carpet Defense, you need two people with a pulse who can run around our shit tackles. Then on offense you can get an extra 5+ yards on every play because everyone outside of Bolton, Sneed, and Harris are the worst tacklers in the league.

This is pretty much spot on. Especially the first part.

Wisconsin_Chief · 10-19-2022, 10:17 AM

We're in a "transition" year and the Bills are supposedly where we were in 2019, going all in for a Super Bowl. We weren't even supposed to be able to measure up to them and they barely beat us. They had to play a perfect game while we played a C+ game at best.

Screw them and screw the media for acting like they actually accomplished something. Oh boy, Frazier is a goddamn genius! "The key to beating Mahomes is dropping 8 into coverage while your 3 pass rushers take advantage of the fact that the Chiefs OT's suck royal shit! It's a genius strategy."

Eat a turd, Leslie. Mahomes will own your soul 9/10 times you play him. Congrats on your week 6 regular season triumph.

staylor26 · 10-19-2022, 10:19 AM

Imagine coming out of that game and thinking "the Chiefs can't win a SB".

Only a ****ing reerun can come to that conclusion.

It was actually the complete opposite. Even with the OT play and lack of a pass rush, if Pat plays like Pat and Andy doesn't get conservative with playcalling, we absolutely win that game.

The Chiefs proved they can go to to toe with the "best team in the NFL" despite having multiple key guys out.

I'm going to have to take a break from this place, because the reeruned takes are just exhausting at this point.

HC_Chief · 10-19-2022, 10:20 AM

The defense needs a true pass-rushing threat at DE, and our other starters to be healthy (or not suspended).

Missing McDuffie and Gay hurt. Not having anyone to consistently apply pressure from the edge, like Buffalo has, hurt. All that said, the D actually did a great job against the Bills. The O lost that game, not the D. More than anything else, the terrible OT play leading to consistent pressure on Mahomes was the difference.

JPH83 · 10-19-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Imagine coming out of that game and thinking "the Chiefs can't win a SB".

Only a ****ing reerun can come to that conclusion.

It was actually the complete opposite. Even with the OT play and lack of a pass rush, if Pat plays like Pat and Andy doesn't get conservative with playcalling, we absolutely win that game.

The Chiefs proved they can go to to toe with the "best team in the NFL" despite having multiple key guys out.

I'm going to have to take a break from this place, because the reeruned takes are just exhausting at this point.

They also had White, Hyde and Rhodes out. Both teams are better with those players coming back.

staylor26 · 10-19-2022, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

They also had White, Hyde and Rhodes out. Both teams are better with those players coming back.

Umm Hyde isn't coming back.

Xavier Rhodes is ****ing washed and was a street FA.

**penguinz** · 10-19-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

They gotta get people to read their articles.

At least the Athletic is readable.

Somone should post the whole articles here instead of the link. I paid the $1 for the month and it logs you out after and wants you to sign back up the next time you try to log in.

https://archive.ph/oShmN

Virtually any paywall can be gotten around using https://archive.today .

Rainbarrel · 10-19-2022, 10:47 AM

The west is lesser and the east stronger than advertised. Besides Fraiser goes down, it's history

Hammock Parties · 10-19-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

The west is lesser and the east stronger than advertised.

FloridaMan88 · 10-19-2022, 10:56 AM

If MVS more aggressively fights for that 50/50 pass in the end zone on the first drive it is likely simultaneous possession and a TD.

If Andy Reid stopped wasting early downs on MEHHHH minimal gain run plays the Chiefs would have avoided facing so many 3rd and long situations.

And of course if the Chiefs would have pivoted to the short/quick passing game to negate Buffalo’s pass rush, it would have minimized Von Miller’s opportunity to exploit Wylie.

The Chiefs were their own worst enemy on offense more than any supposed great Buffalo defensive gameplan.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-19-2022, 11:06 AM

I don't want to hear any crap about their gameplan. KC was a penalty and a missed kick away from 30 pts.

10-19-2022, 09:31 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-525936	Bills defensive plan vs the Chiefs Josh Allen? Patrick Mahomes? Forget about them. Leslie Frazier had the pen last & won the latest chapter of this rivalry. With his “spy games”, he unleashed Von Miller & disrupted the KC passing game with man coverage while still protecting his DBs. https://t.co/N9QIqKzFQ2 — Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) October 18, 2022 Not sure if anyone has the athletic or not but here's a cool article breaking down the Bills game plan. Basically, they had Miller now and didn't last year and he allows this defensive gameplan to work
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10-19-2022, 10:17 AM	#36
Wisconsin_Chief MVP Join Date: Aug 2019 Casino cash: $-859600	We're in a "transition" year and the Bills are supposedly where we were in 2019, going all in for a Super Bowl. We weren't even supposed to be able to measure up to them and they barely beat us. They had to play a perfect game while we played a C+ game at best. Screw them and screw the media for acting like they actually accomplished something. Oh boy, Frazier is a goddamn genius! "The key to beating Mahomes is dropping 8 into coverage while your 3 pass rushers take advantage of the fact that the Chiefs OT's suck royal shit! It's a genius strategy." Eat a turd, Leslie. Mahomes will own your soul 9/10 times you play him. Congrats on your week 6 regular season triumph.
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10-19-2022, 10:19 AM	#37
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1880960	Imagine coming out of that game and thinking "the Chiefs can't win a SB". Only a ****ing reerun can come to that conclusion. It was actually the complete opposite. Even with the OT play and lack of a pass rush, if Pat plays like Pat and Andy doesn't get conservative with playcalling, we absolutely win that game. The Chiefs proved they can go to to toe with the "best team in the NFL" despite having multiple key guys out. I'm going to have to take a break from this place, because the reeruned takes are just exhausting at this point.
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10-19-2022, 10:20 AM	#38
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	The defense needs a true pass-rushing threat at DE, and our other starters to be healthy (or not suspended). Missing McDuffie and Gay hurt. Not having anyone to consistently apply pressure from the edge, like Buffalo has, hurt. All that said, the D actually did a great job against the Bills. The O lost that game, not the D. More than anything else, the terrible OT play leading to consistent pressure on Mahomes was the difference. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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10-19-2022, 10:47 AM	#42
Rainbarrel MVP Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $-609600	The west is lesser and the east stronger than advertised. Besides Fraiser goes down, it's history
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10-19-2022, 10:56 AM	#44
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-507094	If MVS more aggressively fights for that 50/50 pass in the end zone on the first drive it is likely simultaneous possession and a TD. If Andy Reid stopped wasting early downs on MEHHHH minimal gain run plays the Chiefs would have avoided facing so many 3rd and long situations. And of course if the Chiefs would have pivoted to the short/quick passing game to negate Buffalo’s pass rush, it would have minimized Von Miller’s opportunity to exploit Wylie. The Chiefs were their own worst enemy on offense more than any supposed great Buffalo defensive gameplan.
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10-19-2022, 11:06 AM	#45
RaidersOftheCellar MVP Join Date: Sep 2016 Casino cash: $-469600	I don't want to hear any crap about their gameplan. KC was a penalty and a missed kick away from 30 pts.
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