Some Quick Things

[Chris Meck]

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

[scho63]

Cris Collinsworth was praising Wylie last night multiple times.

That's some Bizarro World shit right there.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.

agreed. I want to see the snap counts but I thought I saw more of Watson last night then in previous games.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think you're gonna get much from Moore this season. I don't know what the deal is there, but he just doesn't seem ready for this level yet.

Yeah, I thought the scouting report was that he's a fast learner and hard worker. I am plenty sure that he is. And yet he seems to give up on some of his routes and doesn't seem to have a great understanding of how to adjust his routes. I think a lot of this is lack of confidence.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah, I thought the scouting report was that he's a fast learner and hard worker. I am plenty sure that he is. And yet he seems to give up on some of his routes and doesn't seem to have a great understanding of how to adjust his routes. I think a lot of this is lack of confidence.

Really glad they tried him out as a punter now...ffs. Like I say, think he'll come good, but no doubt it's been underwhelming so far.

[petegz28]

That game brought back memories of what Elway used to do to us in the last few minutes of a game. We would have the lead and then he would scramble out of a sack and make some stupid, ridiculous throw for a 1st. Then he was scrambling in for a TD, etc.

Next thing you know our lead with under 10 mins left is gone and we are wondering WTF just happened?

[louie aguiar]

Mahomes put the team on his back and willed them to win. MVP performance.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's where I think you need a rojo option. You need someone who can just power through for a few even where there's nothing there. We have to have a snowplow option at least some of the time

We threw the ball on 70+ passing attempts. If the dude can't or won't block, it ain't happening man. This is like the backup QB stuff we did for years. Turns out Ricki Stanzi sucked too. Same deal here.

Reid has tried a lot of shit in the running game, and if RoJo was an option, he'd have tried that too.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well, we did win.

But that doesn't change the fact that we have some problems that need addressing.

Yeah, we won a game we had no business winning. Their defense (and cocksucking Clete) performed really well and should have won that. But Mahomes did Mahomes things and their going home and looking in the mirror wondering WTF?

They'll probably be fine, and they'll probably win the south and they'll probably give someone (hopefully not us) fits in the playoffs.

IMO, the answer to the question, is scheming up RBs in the flat. Reid was absolutely disgusting at that in Philly. I understand we don't have Brian Westbrook, but McKinnon is ****ing good and Pacheco can get it. Plus CEH's best plays have come in space.

I'm a ****ing moron, but that's what I'd like to see against these type teams.

Check that. I'd like to see A MOTHER****ING FLAG ON AT LEAST THE MOST BLATANT INTERFERENCE. But that's another matter.

[CatfishBob2]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think it would make zero difference.

Agreed. Even though I would like to see Rojo. I think it's a scheme thing as much as personnel as to why the run looks so terrible. We don't look creative at all with the run game in addition to getting our s***t kicked in up front across the board. There's a reason why when one back looks bad the others do too and vice versa

[SuperChief]

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

Agreed. Even though I would like to see Rojo. I think it's a scheme thing as much as personnel as to why the run looks so terrible. We don't look creative at all with the run game in addition to getting our s***t kicked in up front across the board. There's a reason why when one back looks bad the others do too and vice versa

When's the last time we ran a true draw play? I remember seeing a boatload of those in the AS11 days (and being frustrated), but I'd think it could be a lethal "gotcha" play with Mahomes' arm as the ultimate decoy.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I think it would make zero difference.

Agreed. Our RBs are struggling a lot right now, but part of it is because our line is generating no push.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

We threw the ball on 70+ passing attempts. If the dude can't or won't block, it ain't happening man. This is like the backup QB stuff we did for years. Turns out Ricki Stanzi sucked too. Same deal here.

Reid has tried a lot of shit in the running game, and if RoJo was an option, he'd have tried that too.



Yeah, we won a game we had no business winning. Their defense (and cocksucking Clete) performed really well and should have won that. But Mahomes did Mahomes things and their going home and looking in the mirror wondering WTF?

They'll probably be fine, and they'll probably win the south and they'll probably give someone (hopefully not us) fits in the playoffs.

IMO, the answer to the question, is scheming up RBs in the flat. Reid was absolutely disgusting at that in Philly. I understand we don't have Brian Westbrook, but McKinnon is ****ing good and Pacheco can get it. Plus CEH's best plays have come in space.

I'm a ****ing moron, but that's what I'd like to see against these type teams.

Check that. I'd like to see A MOTHER****ING FLAG ON AT LEAST THE MOST BLATANT INTERFERENCE. But that's another matter.

It's just puzzling on rojo. If he was a liability in pass coverage we should have released him. Even more puzzling Reid specifically said they're going to get him involved. If I'm being optimistic it's that they're optimistic he can improve on pass pro. But given hes a vet I'm skeptical.

If it's an ongoing issue I just don't understand keeping him on the roster.

I do think pass pro issues aside rojo fills a spot that our other RBs can't. He is a north south power runner and I don't think any of our other guys are that guy. He wouldn't have dominated yesterday but I think he would've fared much better. Purely as a runner.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Re-read your post.

They rush 4 and drop everybody else, so if they're disciplined, nobody's open. It's a numbers game.

He missed some throws? Yeah, when multiple rushers just blow by the offensive line, I imagine so.

Freaking out in the pocket? Too many times, there was no pocket. A few times there were, and nobody was open.

It's the line. We can't run the ball at all, which puts EXTRA pressure on both the line themselves as the rushers don't have to honor their run fits and can just pin their ears back and go upfield AND Mahomes.

There were plenty of times he had a pocket and dropped his head.

He wasn't on his game last night. But he's a great player so he kept shooting. That's fine and it's something the best will do.

But he was surprisingly shakey for most of the night considering he was responsible for 500 yards of offense. He missed a LOT of guys out there. That FG in OT came after he missed a walk-in TD to JJSS on a skinny post right before the 4th down conversion. He missed Hardman several times and he seemed to get into that 'wait wait wait' mode when it came to taking his underneath guys, especially his check downs.

He had a bulldog night; one of those nights where an elite pitcher doesn't have his stuff but battles through for 6 innings and 2 earned to give you a chance to win the game. But unlike a pitcher, the person he gave the chance to win was him.

But for all the credit Mahomes will get, it was the defense that saved our ass. That D was exceptional. The 2nd half+ shutout will get all the credit, but man, they were actually pretty damn good from from the 55 yard run by Henry onward.

Mahomes didn't have an A game at all. But it's worth giving him (and the team writ large) credit in that a C- game for him ended up being good enough to beat a quality opponent.

Throw the ball 60+ times and there are going to be pressures, but apart from a couple of pressures up the gut that Smith surrendered (man he's off), PM had decent time on several occasions and just wasn't seeing the field as well as he usually does.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Patrick has been great taking what the defense gives him but he still wants to go deep too often when he shouldn’t.

Multiple times they only rushed 4 and pushed everyone back like the Bengals did last year and the RB was open in the flat.

Just take that and get 5 yards every time until they are forced to move a LB to the out side opening up the middle of the field

That I agree with. I saw at least a couple of plays that were 3rd and manageable and instead of trying for the first down he chucked it deep to receivers that were covered.

[CatfishBob2]

Dude had a 500 yards of total offense while forcing it to two guys. I'm confused on whether he sucked or not. I already had it in my mind that this was another afc south loss and sure enough he made this game harder than it should have been with his tunnel vision and missing throws. He was definitely panicked last night

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

There were plenty of times he had a pocket and dropped his head.

He wasn't on his game last night. But he's a great player so he kept shooting. That's fine and it's something the best will do.

But he was surprisingly shakey for most of the night considering he was responsible for 500 yards of offense. He missed a LOT of guys out there. That FG in OT came after he missed a walk-in TD to JJSS on a skinny post right before the 4th down conversion. He missed Hardman several times and he seemed to get into that 'wait wait wait' mode when it came to taking his underneath guys, especially his check downs.

He had a bulldog night; one of those nights where an elite pitcher doesn't have his stuff but battles through for 6 innings and 2 earned to give you a chance to win the game. But unlike a pitcher, the person he gave the chance to win was him.

But for all the credit Mahomes will get, it was the defense that saved our ass. That D was exceptional. The 2nd half+ shutout will get all the credit, but man, they were actually pretty damn good from from the 55 yard run by Henry onward.

Mahomes didn't have an A game at all. But it's worth giving him (and the team writ large) credit in that a C- game for him ended up being good enough to beat a quality opponent.

Throw the ball 60+ times and there are going to be pressures, but apart from a couple of pressures up the gut that Smith surrendered (man he's off), PM had decent time on several occasions and just wasn't seeing the field as well as he usually does.

The defense played really well all things considered.

Saunders was really good up front. Get that dude more PT.