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Old 12-05-2022, 11:27 AM  
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Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back.

Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"......

The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:52 AM   #31
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I'm amazed there's only one thread about this. It was an astonishingly bad call. Even if you make the FG, all you've done is tie and you're putting it on a defense that only once all game actually kept them from going on a long drive.

WTF fat man?
we've seen brady ice the game against us so many times in the same manner, it's shocking we didn't elect to give mahomes a chance to do the same

just sickening

you hope this never happens again
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:53 AM   #32
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No idea why they didn't go for it.
The only explanation that would make any sense whatsoever is if they thought Mahomes wasn't physically able. Which would just be really shitty luck.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:56 AM   #33
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Who ever had last possession was going to win the game. Reid needed to run the ball to milk the clock. Not throw it twice for incomplete passes, stopping the clock, and then missing the FG
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:56 AM   #34
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The goal should have been to go score a TD because then only a TD beats you no matter how much time you give them.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:56 AM   #35
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:57 AM   #36
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The only explanation that would make any sense whatsoever is if they thought Mahomes wasn't physically able. Which would just be really shitty luck.


Mahomes missed a WIDE OPEN mckinnon underneath. I was yelling for him to throw it to him for an easy 1st down conversion. But he couldn't hear me thru the tv.
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:59 AM   #37
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Well that was dumb. They couldn't stop the Bengals all day. Why would they think that would suddenly change?
If we make the field goal, then cincy will be more motivated to the attack because they have to score. And our defense can see how it’s going and “gift” them big yards in a pinch. I would guess Andy wanted us to score within 5 minutes. But we dragged out that possession and that hurt us. Once we got close to 3 minutes we hit no man’s land.

Again I would have went for it. But by your logic why would we want cincy to have last possession with almost no shot for us to get the ball back?
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:00 PM   #38
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If we make the field goal, then cincy will be more motivated to the attack because they have to score. And our defense can see how it’s going and “gift” them big yards in a pinch. I would guess Andy wanted us to score within 5 minutes. But we dragged out that possession and that hurt us. Once we got close to 3 minutes we hit no man’s land.

Again I would have went for it. But by your logic why would we want cincy to have last possession with almost no shot for us to get the ball back?
Because we would have the lead, by 4 and they have to go score a TD not kick a fg.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:02 PM   #39
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Because we would have the lead, by 4 and they have to go score a TD not kick a fg.
As opposed to kicking a FG just to tie and giving the Bengals more than enough time to at least get a FG themselves.

Yea, I'm going for that 4th down every single time.
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Old 12-05-2022, 12:03 PM   #40
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No....Williams sucks according to most people here who don't know shit about decent coverage.
Per next gen stats he was never more than 2 yards from every WR he covered yesterday.

Burrow is just Brady like with his pocket presence and accuracy. That last throw to beat us was perfect.

Karlaftis was so close to tipping it and Williams was right there with great coverage.

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Old 12-05-2022, 12:04 PM   #41
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Butker's done it plenty of times in the past for us so it makes sense, but it's one of those if it works then you don't hear about it. 55 yard field goal isn't a lock, especially in an outdoor stadium, but that's every field goal, it'll either go in or it won't. Basing the game and last drive on it was an issue, if it was a miss before half time then it wouldn't have received the same attention.

I believe that if you play for Field Goals, you play to lose the game, especially in this day and age in the NFL. Andy has always been overly conservative and has never truly been relentless, and attacking all the time. When we won the Super Bowl, Andy would always tell Patrick to keep firing. We need that mentality, let Patrick go crazy and take the good with the bad, rather then losing it conservatively in a non-conservative NFL.
Honestly, I think it was very poor situational awareness.

In general this theory makes sense. However the current situation dictated the more aggressive approach. This is not hindsight, you could feel it in the game, live!

Everyone in that stadium and most of us at home knew that even if that FG was good, we were not going to win. Tying that game up with three minutes left to an offense that had moved up and down the field at will would 100% be able to get into FG range and put us away.

The only real shot we had against this particular team in that particular moment was to score a TD, take a little more time off the clock and then hope our D could keep them out of the end zone. Which was possible as we had done it in this game earlier.

Attempting that Field Goal was a death sentence either way. You knew it when it happened.
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Andy needs to quit using old school thinking in these situations. Going for the fg attempt there to tie, just not the right choice. Even without hindsight, it was to tie so you're giving the Bengals the ball back.

Don't ever take the ball out of Mahomes hands there. You have an easy way out even if he fails....."well we live and die with Pat so"......

The goal of that drive should have been to either tie it with less than 10 seconds to go or win it in similar fashion with like 30 seconds left.
I think a few others were thinking/saying this as well...
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If we make the field goal, then cincy will be more motivated to the attack because they have to score. And our defense can see how it’s going and “gift” them big yards in a pinch. I would guess Andy wanted us to score within 5 minutes. But we dragged out that possession and that hurt us. Once we got close to 3 minutes we hit no man’s land.

Again I would have went for it. But by your logic why would we want cincy to have last possession with almost no shot for us to get the ball back?
Cincy was likely going to have the last possession anyway after that drive… with their ability to move the ball and control the clock… so it would have been better to force them to get a TD to win versus only needing a FG.

That’s the stupidity of Andy Reid’s decision… besides choosing Butker/Toub’s special teams unit over Mahomes, even a made FG there doesn’t put the Chiefs in a solid position to win.
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Per next gen stats he was never more than 2 yards from every WR he covered yesterday.

Burrow is just Brady like with his pocket presence and accuracy. That last throw to beat us was perfect.

Karlaftis was so close to tipping it and Williams was right there with great coverage.

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They had a couple slant throws that just missed getting knocked down.
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Goddamn this was just a good play. Williams was all over Higgins. Look how close Karlaftis was from tipping that ball? And Danna was right in Burrow’s face as he threw the ball.

The ball had to be placed where it was and he did it. Sometimes you just tip the cap bc it’s hard to see many defenses defending that.

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