Chiefs LNBS: Greg Lewis should be the new OC - Page 3

**BossChief** · 01-10-2023, 12:04 AM

After Bienemy goes to Denver.

Lots of similarities to Doug Peterson

Andy signed him as an UDFA out of college and coached him for 6 or 7 years.
Andy has prepped him for the role by having him coach multiple position groups.
The job he’s done with Pacheco and McKinnon has been top shelf.
Tyreek had his best years under Lewis.

Get the next round of Third round comp picks ready when Greg gets a HC spot in 2-3 years as Mahomes has his best years.

Hoover · 01-10-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't get why people would want Nagy to be the next in line after Reid left.

We have Mahomes, we don't have to settle for second, third, or fourth best.

We would be the top choice for every hot shot play-caller and offensive mind.

It's not settling. The relationship and respect is what you are looking for number one, and keeping the style of offense in tact. Nagy gives you all of that.

I mean who else would you even consider?

MahomesMagic · 01-10-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

It's not settling. The relationship and respect is what you are looking for number one, and keeping the style of offense in tact. Nagy gives you all of that.

I mean who else would you even consider?

I hope Reid stays another decade. But if he had stated he was leaving last year or this year I would have looked into Daboll last year or Steichen this year.

mabbott · 01-10-2023, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Biggest problem with that is you said replacing EB. KC desperately needs him gone, but no good way to do it. They can only hope another team hires him, but after the past few years it doesn’t look promising.

Based on Houston's propensity to hire and subsequently fire black head coaches... this seems the ideal spot for EB. Just saying.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-10-2023, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

I've thought about this too in the name of giving new guys chances at the OC position.

Nagy is the most qualified, sure, but it's Reid. The OC doesn't really matter. So why not give the job to a new guy? Because Nagy will leave for an OC position somewhere else? Oh teh noes.

I guess I’m a little partial to the guy. You see mahomes with him more than we’ve seen from other offensive coaches. And Kafka was a good coach. So Patrick obviously really likes him and Nagy is helpful. Reid may be the genius of the operation but I think Nagy was extremely instrumental in that first year of mahomes development which turned him from a mechanical mess into a star.

I also think back to the days when Andy first started. They talked about meetings where Andy encouraged all his coaches to research concepts they see on all levels and coaches would eagerly throw a million crazy ideas at the wall. Think I read somewhere that Nagy gets especially geeky about wanting to try new things. I don’t know how good of a play caller he is but I really like him as an offensive coach. Which actually makes this situation ideal for him

saphojunkie · 01-10-2023, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Biggest problem with that is you said replacing EB. KC desperately needs him gone, but no good way to do it. They can only hope another team hires him, but after the past few years it doesn’t look promising.

"EB, we gotta move on this year. So... whatever calls you need me to make, I'll make. But you should take a head coaching job - wherever that is."

jallmon · 01-10-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I want Bieniemy to Denver so ****ing bad.

Not just for the comp picks. I need Quesadilla Cope to twist himself into a pretzel explaining how Bieniemy was the real genius behind the Chiefs success. I need that.

I agree 100% with this post.

Chieftain · 01-10-2023, 02:39 PM

The last few games I noticed Mahomes and Nagy sitting on the bench discussing plays together. In one sequence, EB was sitting right next to them but Mahomes was facing towards Nagy and discussing the plays with him.
If EB is leaving, the main reason for his departure would be Mahomes. They don't see each other eye to eye. I think Pat knows the guy lask ingenuity and crafty ideas to run an offense.

**BossChief** · 02-15-2023, 11:24 PM

I still think this is the direction we should go.

Giving Veach a couple third rounders would be huge with the way he drafts.

From a value perspective in a trade up, those 2 thirds have the value to love from 32 all the way to 20 and on sone charts even to pick 19.

Greg is a VERY sharp coach. I’m sure he would interview very well when he would get looks as a HC.

Archie Bunker · 02-15-2023, 11:34 PM

It’s 100% Nagy, pretty easy to see that’s been the plan all along.

Not sure I’m onboard with using those spots just to harvest draft picks anyway. If it happens, fine, but it shouldn’t be a factor at all.

smithandrew051 · 02-15-2023, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

It’s 100% Nagy, pretty easy to see that’s been the plan all along.

Not sure I’m onboard with using those spots just to harvest draft picks anyway. If it happens, fine, but it shouldn’t be a factor at all.

Weren’t Nagy and Veach college teammates too?

If there was ever a Head Coach in Waiting it’s Nagy.

mkp785 · 02-15-2023, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Weren’t Nagy and Veach college teammates too?

If there was ever a Head Coach in Waiting it’s Nagy.

That worked brilliantly the last time he was a head coach. Nagy was 1 of the worst coaches this century. Please don't tell me that no one could've done anything with the Bears roster because that's a cop out and lame excuse.

Nagy is fine right where he is-as an assistant coach. If EB moves on, then Lewis should get the chance.

smithandrew051 · 02-15-2023, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

That worked brilliantly the last time he was a head coach. Nagy was 1 of the worst coaches this century. Please don't tell me that no one could've done anything with the Bears roster because that's a cop out and lame excuse.

Nagy is fine right where he is-as an assistant coach. If EB moves on, then Lewis should get the chance.

Oh I’m not saying I think Nagy should be our next head coach. I’m just saying I think he will be.

He clearly has a close connection to Veach, Reid, and Mahomes. The dots seem to connect. The problem is we have no idea when that would be. Hopefully, it’s no time soon because I want Reid to stay as long as possible.

I’ll also be shocked if Nagy isn’t our next OC whenever Bieniemy leaves.

DRM08 · 02-15-2023, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

Nagy was 1 of the worst head coaches this century.

This seems like a pretty harsh statement. Nagy had a winning record even with pretty bad QB's on the Chicago team. The QB situation would be very good for him in Kansas City if he takes over for Coach Reid in the next 5-7 years.

Archie Bunker · 02-15-2023, 11:56 PM

Nagy will take over after a couple of years as OC, I have zero doubts about that.

EB isn’t just risking his career just to show the world he can do it, he knows the Chiefs job isn’t his if he waits for it.

Nagy is a Veach and Mahomes guy and he’ll be just fine. Not like this would be the first time in history that a coach failed, went back to be an assistant, and then gets a 2nd chance. We see it damn near every year.

mkp785 · 02-16-2023, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

This seems like a pretty harsh statement. Nagy had a winning record even with pretty bad QB's on the Chicago team. The QB situation would be very good for him in Kansas City if he takes over for Coach Reid in the next 5-7 years.

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Oh I’m not saying I think Nagy should be our next head coach. I’m just saying I think he will be.

He clearly has a close connection to Veach, Reid, and Mahomes. The dots seem to connect. The problem is we have no idea when that would be. Hopefully, it’s no time soon because I want Reid to stay as long as possible.

I’ll also be shocked if Nagy isn’t our next OC whenever Bieniemy leaves.

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Nagy will take over after a couple of years as OC, I have zero doubts about that.

EB isn’t just risking his career just to show the world he can do it, he knows the Chiefs job isn’t his if he waits for it.

Nagy is a Veach and Mahomes guy and he’ll be just fine. Not like this would be the first time in history that a coach failed, went back to be an assistant, and then gets a 2nd chance. We see it damn near every year.

I have no idea what you guys see in Nagy. He was and is hated by Bears fans because he was trash there. He's fine here...because of that Mahomes guy as well as Andy.

As has been pointed out with EB, everyone knows it's Andy running things. Nagy doesn't mean much to us. Hopefully some other team tricks themselves into hiring.

I want the picks. Give the job to Lewis. There's no way he can be as bad at interviewing as EB apparently is. He'll get hired and get us picks.

Nagy can stay an assistant, if he knows what's good for him.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	LNBS: Greg Lewis should be the new OC After Bienemy goes to Denver. Lots of similarities to Doug Peterson Andy signed him as an UDFA out of college and coached him for 6 or 7 years. Andy has prepped him for the role by having him coach multiple position groups. The job he’s done with Pacheco and McKinnon has been top shelf. Tyreek had his best years under Lewis. Get the next round of Third round comp picks ready when Greg gets a HC spot in 2-3 years as Mahomes has his best years.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1555912	I still think this is the direction we should go. Giving Veach a couple third rounders would be huge with the way he drafts. From a value perspective in a trade up, those 2 thirds have the value to love from 32 all the way to 20 and on sone charts even to pick 19. Greg is a VERY sharp coach. I’m sure he would interview very well when he would get looks as a HC. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	It’s 100% Nagy, pretty easy to see that’s been the plan all along. Not sure I’m onboard with using those spots just to harvest draft picks anyway. If it happens, fine, but it shouldn’t be a factor at all.
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02-15-2023, 11:56 PM	#44
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	Nagy will take over after a couple of years as OC, I have zero doubts about that. EB isn’t just risking his career just to show the world he can do it, he knows the Chiefs job isn’t his if he waits for it. Nagy is a Veach and Mahomes guy and he’ll be just fine. Not like this would be the first time in history that a coach failed, went back to be an assistant, and then gets a 2nd chance. We see it damn near every year.
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