Bengals offensive line

[dlphg9]

In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that.

So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him?

If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?

[Gary Cooper]

What happened to Brandon Williams? Has he done anything since the Chiefs signed him?

[Rasputin]

Chris Jones will get his first post season sack

[poolboy]

maybe they will go more vanilla defense...mano on mano..dont overthink it Mr Spags

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What happened to Brandon Williams? Has he done anything since the Chiefs signed him?

He's played 15-20 snaps/gm the last 5-6 weeks.

Pretty standard big ol' interior space filler work, really. He's been a nice enough addition.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

We say that a lot but may I ask what it is we lack?

Nnadi and Saunders are big ****ing guys. As is Dunlap. Karlaftis is strong at the point of attack and then of course there's Frank Clark: Elite Edge Setter.

At LBer we have Bolton who's just a damn tackling machine as well as Gay who's speed allows him to flash into a gap, get a guy to commit and then get out of it before the G should be able to get to him.

And the DBs, apart from Thornhill, are all really willing, sound tacklers.

This team SHOULDN'T struggle against the run, at least not from a personnel standpoint. If we want to stop it, we can.

Run defense is about discipline and attitude. This team is MUCH better situated to be stout against the run than, say, the 2019 unit that stoned Derrick Henry.

Just gotta want to...

Honestly, I don't know, just know that we can stop the run situationally, because we have, many times. But for a whole game? Not excited to see that. And I really like both Nnadi and Saunders, but I'm beginning to believe that they're no more than decent rotational talent. I'm hoping Williams will be kind of our 2023 Pennel, tbh. Not worried about either Frank or Carlos vs. the run when they're out there, but the guys behind them aren't the best run-stoppers in the world. And to be honest I don't think Frank is what he was in some ways in 2019 in terms of run defense.

Anyway, more than the runs, the defense has to somehow consistently muck up the underneath routes, which is mostly on Bolton and Gay in coverage. I think they've flashed some good coverage snaps, but they've also definitely had some bad ones. Recently.

Maybe J. Reid when he's close to the box. Maybe there's a way to have Cook in/around the box on early downs? He's looked pretty good vs. the run, I think.

Yeah, CIN is so variable in their attack and looks, I just don't know exactly how we're supposed to attack them, other than get a lead and make them one dimensional as possible. The hows of it are a puzzle.

[DJ's left nut]

Heavy nickel and tell Cook to bring his hittin' cleats?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Heavy nickel and tell Cook to bring his hittin' cleats?

You mean bring three LBs to the party plus three S? Have we ever done that?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

It's going to be hard for 3 new lineman, and an injured Center to be great with the Arrowhead crowd. The only game away from Cinci these replacement lineman has played is Buffalo, and that crowd wasn't very loud and then went dormant when the Bengals got the lead. We need to dominate their O-line to have a chance.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Can certainly jam at the line, but had better have safety help over the top because if the pass rush doesn’t get home Chase and Higgins will get open. Also, Mixon and Perine are going to get some yardage forcing the safeties to want to come, which then possibly leaves them exposed to the deep ball. I still think they should feast with Cappa and Collins both being out, DL has to do their job though. Need to hit Burrow hard and set the tone.

Not just Burrow but the rest of their offense, too.

The defense got pantsed last game. Just an all around embarrassing display. I don't know what other motivation you could possibly need on the defensive side of the ball to destroy these clowns, especially when they're already calling Arrowhead "Burrowhead".

[smithandrew051]

We need to stop the run this time. Plenty of other teams stifled the Bengals rushing attack, which is why they were 4th worst in the league in both total rushing yards and yards per carry. 3.8 yards per carry is really bad. Mixon was under 4 yards a carry for the year and Perine was only 4.1. CEH has been 4.3 or better every year for perspective.

Despite what some here think, the Bengals are bad rushing team. That’s exactly what was so damn disappointing the last time we played. Our defense was gashed in an awful effort. Which also plays right into why we didn’t get much pressure. Burrow was constantly in 2nd/3rd and short. He never had to wait for routes to develop.

The Bengals OL is worse than when we last met them. The Bills game is fools gold. We gashed the Bills two years ago in a similar fashion with Fisher, Allegretti, Kilgore, Wylie, and Remmers. That OL wasn’t any good but dominated a soft Bills defense.

The Bengals haven’t been able to run on anyone except the Bills lately. The Ravens (twice), Patriots, and Buccaneers all very much limited the Bengals ability to run.

The Chiefs DL has a very favorable matchup against mostly back ups (on a team who didn’t have a great line in the first place) at home in the AFCCG with a chance for redemption. No excuses for the DL and run defense to not make a major impact on this game.

[BWillie]

The Bengals oline destroyed the Bills. With the 2 or 3 backup guys or not, they looked fine.

[Megatron96]

There's always a chance that we're totally over-thinking this. Come with me a sec:

Does anyone believe that our DL is really only as good or worse than the BUF DL without Von Miller?

Because I don't. I think our DL is a lot better than the Bills DL sans Miller. Maybe our DL will create a lot more havoc than theirs did a few days ago. In which case, a lot of this hand-wringing will be for nothing.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The Bengals oline destroyed the Bills. With the 2 or 3 backup guys or not, they looked fine.

That same OL got dominated by the Ravens. Ravens hit Burrow 8 times and sacked him 4 times. Bengals couldn’t establish the run.

The Bills defense just wasn’t any good by the end of the year. They were getting gashed constantly.

[Why Not?]

Can't stop them, can only hope to contain them. The Bengals will get around 7 possessions. Can we force a couple of punts and or a turnover? As I've said before, 27 seems to be their number against us or in the playoffs. Can we get that to 24? Then the offense will need to score on 5 of their possessions but make one of those scores a TD vs a Bengals FG. 31-27 or 27-24. That's our shot. We're not gonna blow em out nor are we gonna get blown out. It will be the same as usual but can we flip the score for once?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Can't stop them, can only hope to contain them. The Bengals will get around 7 possessions. Can we force a couple of punts and or a turnover? As I've said before, 27 seems to be their number against us or in the playoffs. Can we get that to 24? Then the offense will need to score on 5 of their possessions but make one of those scores a TD vs a Bengals FG. 31-27 or 27-24. That's our shot. We're not gonna blow em out nor are we gonna get blown out. It will be the same as usual but can we flip the score for once?

Odds are each team will get 8+ possessions. If our defense can just hold them to their average in terms of scoring per drive, they'll score at least 4-5 times. Just have to make them trade a couple of those for FGs. Which is how things work out most of the time for our defense, so it's doable.

The Chiefs' problem in the three games vs. CIN is that the offense hasn't ever done their part of scoring to their average, or even very close to it. The offense can't stall out in the 2nd half; they have to score at least a TD and a FG, if not more. But the bare-ass minimum is a TD. No more of this get a FG in the 3rd and then give the ball away or sit around and pick their noses for 20 minutes. Keep firing, as Andy likes to say. There aren't but a handful of teams that KC needs to run the score up on, but CIN is definitely one of the few.