Chiefs Historical Question

[DenverChief]

I was starting to think about the practice squad and all the talented players that could end up on the Chiefs practice squad and it got me wondering - has there been any Chiefs player that was signed to the practice squad that was elevated at some point and became a significant contributor?

I would define significant contributor as a player on Offense or Defense that receives above average snap counts at their respective position and produces (receptions, rushes if applicable)- special teams snaps don't count. Just to be clear just being on the active roster isn't qualifying - there has to be significant game action with moderate productivity.

*EDIT*

JJ Birden
Willie Davis
Byron Pringle
Tracy Simien

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Well, you're going to have to correct wikipedia, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_K..._Chiefs_season

I don't have editing privileges

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I don't have editing privileges

I hate it when a source that I like isn't perfect. I use that transaction database occasionally, but here's an article from September 5th, 1995, that shows the Chiefs signing Barndt to their practice squad.

https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/199...7482810273600/

Kansas City -- Signed cornerback Perry Carter, tight end Willy Tate, linebacker Don Davis and offensive linemen Tom Barndt and Ron Florine to the practice squad.

(And I'm not trying to start an internet fight. It's an interesting question. I'm just wondering why this transaction would be missing.)

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I hate it when a source that I like isn't perfect. I used that transaction database occasionally, but here's an article from September 5th, 1995, that shows the Chiefs signing Barndt to their practice squad.

https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/199...7482810273600/

Kansas City -- Signed cornerback Perry Carter, tight end Willy Tate, linebacker Don Davis and offensive linemen Tom Barndt and Ron Florine to the practice squad.

(And I'm not trying to start an internet fight. It's an interesting question. I'm just wondering why this transaction would be missing.)

Nice find! I don't understand why the practice squad isn't tracked more accurately like the starting roster - Simply for the stories you can dig up like JJ Birden, Willie Davis and Joe horn type success stories.

[ChiefsCountry]

Chiefs had some good success with NFL Europe players - Brian Waters and Mike Maslowski are two that didn't get on the practice squad but played over there.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Chiefs had some good success with NFL Europe players - Brian Waters and Mike Maslowski are two that didn't get on the practice squad but played over there.

I'm really enjoying the resurgence of the XFL and the USFL - I'd love to see NFL Europe make a come back

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Nice find! I don't understand why the practice squad isn't tracked more accurately like the starting roster - Simply for the stories you can dig up like JJ Birden, Willie Davis and Joe horn type success stories.

Yeah, you gotta think that there are records somewhere. In 1995, organizations certainly had reasonably well-developed computer records, but I bet the backup systems weren't ideal, and the data certainly wasn't networked. I wonder where a place like the transaction database is getting their data. If they're scraping news stories, which seems implausible, they're certainly going to miss transactions, especially minor ones like practice squad moves.

And if they were imperfect in the 1990s, the 1970s and earlier are going to be really spotty. I still chuckle at the story of George Allen trading away a draft pick twice when he was with the Commanderskins, and no one noticed until draft day when two teams tried to pick. They probably kept the records on a cocktail napkin in an ash tray on Pete Rozelle's desk.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I'm really enjoying the resurgence of the XFL and the USFL - I'd love to see NFL Europe make a come back

I think the NFL will eventually get some sort of minor league affiliation with the XFL or USFL.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I think the NFL will eventually get some sort of minor league affiliation with the XFL or USFL.

Y'know, I love football and all, but I've seen these leagues come and go and I've never developed one iota of interest in them. I think I need to know the players and continuity of the stories they bring, and as an adult I don't really have the desire to invest a few seasons to build that momentum.

When I was a kid, football was new and exciting and I learned the players and got myself into that do-loop of watching players come and go. I wonder if I would be a football fan if I hadn't seen a game until I was 30.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Y'know, I love football and all, but I've seen these leagues come and go and I've never developed one iota of interest in them. I think I need to know the players and continuity of the stories they bring, and as an adult I don't really have the desire to invest a few seasons to build that momentum.

When I was a kid, football was new and exciting and I learned the players and got myself into that do-loop of watching players come and go. I wonder if I would be a football fan if I hadn't seen a game until I was 30.

If you knew say the St. Louis Battlehawks were the Chiefs affiliate and had some of our training camp and practice squad stars you might follow them and watch a few games.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If you knew say the St. Louis Battlehawks were the Chiefs affiliate and had some of our training camp and practice squad stars you might follow them and watch a few games.

I dunno. I never watched the WLAF when there were Chiefs prospects assigned to them. Maybe I saw a game or two, but that was it.

I may be an outlier, because I don't really follow any sports other than the Chiefs. I don't watch baseball or basketball, and I don't watch college football. I pretty much just watch the NFL, and in recent years that's even been narrowing a bit to only the Chiefs.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I dunno. I never watched the WLAF when there were Chiefs prospects assigned to them. Maybe I saw a game or two, but that was it.

I may be an outlier, because I don't really follow any sports other than the Chiefs. I don't watch baseball or basketball, and I don't watch college football. I pretty much just watch the NFL, and in recent years that's even been narrowing a bit to only the Chiefs.

Agreed - I used to be an avid baseball fan and a passive basketball fan but I rarely watch anymore.

[TinyEvel]

Hmmm. Bobby Sippio was elevated from the practice squad in Sept 2007 and played a full season. Let's check his stats....

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by TinyEvel

Hmmm. Bobby Sippio was elevated from the practice squad in Sept 2007 and played a full season. Let's check his stats....