A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023

[DenverChief]

1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense. 1.5 Sacks, 2 QB Hits and 1 Pass Defensed. FAU, Danna and Karlaftis showed up huge in QB sacks and pressures. Lawrence was very uncomfortable in the pocket on many drives. Chenal showed up clutch on a few plays most notably not being fooled by the screen pass on 2nd and ten that led to the third and long before Jax turned the ball over on downs.

2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!. On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard. Toney and Moore atoned for their drops 5/5 for 35 yards and 3/4 for 70 yards and TD respectively. The Jax defense is a good defense, while we didn't play perfect and still have A LOT of room for improvement we definitely ironed out some of the more fixable problems.

3. Jawaan Taylor - this is going to be an ongoing issue with the refs I'm afraid - PTW seemed solid in relief. I'm not sure what to do here bench him and play PTW? Try and trade him? I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties.

4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis.

5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again 12 Carries for 70 Yards and 5.8 yd average. I love his running style and that 31 yard rip was a thing of beauty. I just wish he could have put it over the goal at the end of the game for a nice cherry on top of his running day.

6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part.

7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet - not sure if it's still knocking the rust off of the offseason or what. I would expect next week we will see a much more crisp game with our offense. This would have technically been week 1 this week.

8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.

[Buehler445]

I was really impressed with the Defense. They were the toughest unit out of all of them in some really horrid conditions and playing a shitload of snaps. Holy shit. That’s not what I expected. That’s also not what I’ve seen in a long long time.

Maybe Jacksonville sucks

Offense needs to happen or this boat don’t float. I still have every confidence it will, but the execution was ****ing ugly.

Kelce looked hobbled at the end. Hopefully he can recover.

Hopefully we rape the Bears for a half and get the offense right and then rest guys. But we know that won’t happen because we never blow anyone out.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Shag

2 drops, 2 personal fouls - Kelce needs to get his shit together. He'll be fine, but today was not a good debut to 2023.

I think this is more about trying to fire a team up. Nothing more, nothing less.

[A Salt Weapon]

Originally Posted by bobbything

It was a non-issue until Collinsworth decided it was an issue. Ergo, the league now targets him.

Pretty much, collinsworth has hated the Chiefs for decades, he was successful with all the Kareem Hunt chatter, tried again with Hill, he’ll latch onto anything that might hurt our success.

[Calcountry]

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

[Couch-Potato]

I think every week there will be a different WR that stands out a little bit, we're a committee at the WR position.

I'd swap James out for Toney at KR & PR.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Defense is looking really good.

[Buehler445]

Goddamn. Feels good to get a win and the rest of the division to eat Ls.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

I think this is more about trying to fire a team up. Nothing more, nothing less.

Dropping passes and ripping his helmet off in frustration is firing the team up?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Because we are now THIS:



The 49ers had the #1 defense in the 1980s.

It is a vastly undersold and underrated part of their dynasty.

Great offenses make great teams. But dynasties ALWAYS have ONE THING in common.

DEFENSE



A storm is coming.

[Wallcrawler]

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

Part of playing good D is using the boundary lines as an extra defender. Squeeze WRs to the boundaries is a fundamental part of modern defense. Gives them less area to operate and since push outs are not a auto catch anymore it gives the DBs a bit of an advantage.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by notorious

I don't think I've ever seen the NFL and officials single out a player like they did today.

It's a load of horse shit.

Lane Johnson is a savvy veteran getting an advantage.

Taylor is cheating.

What's the difference? I think you know.

[irafreak]

A less than 100% kelce is definitely better than not having him at all. Guy still commands attention. I'm mean on 3rd and goal late in the game, he was hit by 3 defenders as he tried to catch the ball.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

I agree with almost all of this - the Kelce stuff is just Kelce being Kelce - I don't think this is a regression, I think it's his way of getting his team fired up. If it continues into other games and starts to negatively impact the team it will be concerning - until then....

[A Salt Weapon]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

I think the holding calls were still targeting him, I think because they couldn’t throw a flag for a false start or lining up wrong they were throwing holding flags as retaliation anyways. Jags were holding way more blatantly and being praised by the announcers for it.