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Old 06-11-2024, 04:31 PM   #1
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Outside of the Super Bowl, I suppose that may be true.
He got handed a SB contender.

"What have you done for me lately?"

I suppose you'd say the same about McCarthy? Payton?
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:26 AM   #2
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:43 AM   #3
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Mike Tomlin basically guarantees they don't bottom out, for most owners that's good enough, he won a SB and got to another.

This is literally the epitome of 500 or better and playoffs a lot of years as the known beats the unknown of maybe going 5-12
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:50 AM   #4
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I never understood why tomlin, however, gets credit for controlling difficult personalities. It seems he either gravitates toward head cases or is completely incapable of controlling them. AB, leveon, Martavius Bryant, claypool, probably Pickens… Diontae is a bit extra too. He doesn’t seem to mind churning and burning head cases and milking a few years out of them. Which helps in huge ways but also kills them at times too.
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:51 AM   #5
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They got backed into a corner with Pickett.

They needed a QB he was the only one with a 1st round grade and he went to Pitt, I think they felt like they had to take him if he was there.
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:56 AM   #6
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They got backed into a corner with Pickett.

They needed a QB he was the only one with a 1st round grade and he went to Pitt, I think they felt like they had to take him if he was there.
Pickett was never gonna be good. That was a weird one.
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:53 AM   #7
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I'm actually kinda interested to see them with Wilson this year. He's not what he once was, but I kinda think they could be a bit of a darkhorse in that division.
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I'm actually kinda interested to see them with Wilson this year. He's not what he once was, but I kinda think they could be a bit of a darkhorse in that division.
They're a really sneaky team to get into a WC spot and be one and done.

Oh wait, that's exactly what they did last year!
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One of the biggest problems the Steelers have also had is finding an OC.

Having a defensive minded HC is such a ****ing pain in the ass. You either can't find a good OC, or you do, and he's gone after 1-2 seasons.

I 100% prefer an offensive minded HC in today's NFL unless I already have an establish upper echelon franchise QB.
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Old 06-11-2024, 01:02 PM   #10
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One of the biggest problems the Steelers have also had is finding an OC.

Having a defensive minded HC is such a ****ing pain in the ass. You either can't find a good OC, or you do, and he's gone after 1-2 seasons.

I 100% prefer an offensive minded HC in today's NFL unless I already have an establish upper echelon franchise QB.
How many offensive minded hc out there that are good and consistent for decades? They all seem defensive minded.
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Old 06-11-2024, 01:35 PM   #11
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How many offensive minded hc out there that are good and consistent for decades? They all seem defensive minded.
Well if the qualifier is "for decades" then you really got me there!

But McVay, Shannan, LaFleur, Taylor, Steichen, etc. there are plenty of young offensive minded coaches that are doing a great job. I swear you people are absolutely clueless about the NFL outside of KC.
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How many offensive minded hc out there that are good and consistent for decades? They all seem defensive minded.
Do you think the Bears, Commanders, and Patriots aren't just a LITTLE bit remorseful that they've got brand new shiny QBs and yet their head coaches are going to be mostly out of the picture when it comes to that QB's development? I mean yeah, that's what the QB coach and OC is for sure, but wouldn't it be nice if the guy making all the decisions could more intuitively make those decisions that are best for the QB instead of having to take advice from assistant coaches all the time?

If I'm an NFL owner hiring a new head coach, and I can take either Tomlin or a young unproven OC from somewhere, I'd be tempted to go Tomlin if I had a vet QB already in place. But if I'm starting from scratch? There's no way I'd hire any defensive guy ever. Not a young guy, not Tomlin, and not even Belichick.
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Do you think the Bears, Commanders, and Patriots aren't just a LITTLE bit remorseful that they've got brand new shiny QBs and yet their head coaches are going to be mostly out of the picture when it comes to that QB's development? I mean yeah, that's what the QB coach and OC is for sure, but wouldn't it be nice if the guy making all the decisions could more intuitively make those decisions that are best for the QB instead of having to take advice from assistant coaches all the time?

If I'm an NFL owner hiring a new head coach, and I can take either Tomlin or a young unproven OC from somewhere, I'd be tempted to go Tomlin if I had a vet QB already in place. But if I'm starting from scratch? There's no way I'd hire any defensive guy ever. Not a young guy, not Tomlin, and not even Belichick.
I’d take Vrabel over Tomlin.
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I've never really compared him to some of the other middle of the road coaches because he's had plenty of 12-4 type seasons. It's only in the last 5 years where he's had middling QB play where they're just scraping by. He's been to 2 Super Bowls and got a win. That's more than most coaches will ever do.

He's not a QB guru but I don't know why every coach has to be. He definitely can get a lot out of a team. If the NFL really goes down this private equity route Mike Tomlin is basically going to be the perfect NFL coach. You'll have a front office running things through analytics and buying all the groceries basically, and the coach will be expected to follow the front office and make the most out of the talent he's given.
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I've never really compared him to some of the other middle of the road coaches because he's had plenty of 12-4 type seasons. It's only in the last 5 years where he's had middling QB play where they're just scraping by. He's been to 2 Super Bowls and got a win. That's more than most coaches will ever do.

He's not a QB guru but I don't know why every coach has to be. He definitely can get a lot out of a team. If the NFL really goes down this private equity route Mike Tomlin is basically going to be the perfect NFL coach. You'll have a front office running things through analytics and buying all the groceries basically, and the coach will be expected to follow the front office and make the most out of the talent he's given.
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