Who is the first player/coach on Veach's guillotine?

[dtrain]

Originally Posted by scho63

1. Other good teams pick near the bottom too including Philly.
2. You can move, make trades and get what you need. We have been stubborn in moving for Oline players or trading for talent. This has been a multi-year problem.

Since 2021 the eagles have picked in the top 15 3 times!
https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../phi/draft.htm

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by dtrain

Since 2021 the eagles have picked in the top 15 3 times!
https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../phi/draft.htm

The consistency of this team works against us with the draft. Seriously, a down year for us would be drafting at 25 or something.

[cdcox]

Vengeance is the wrong way to look at it. There is a salary cap. We have holes to fill. Draft picks. A 17 game schedule and some playoff games to get through with injuries. Think of it as a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces, where you only have to get more of the puzzle done than your opponents. The pieces change shape over time. And you have to bid for the pieces you’re missing. Guillotines are not useful.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Vengeance is the wrong way to look at it. There is a salary cap. We have holes to fill. Draft picks. A 17 game schedule and some playoff games to get through with injuries. Think of it as a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces, where you only have to get more of the puzzle done than your opponents. The pieces change shape over time. And you have to bid for the pieces you’re missing. Guillotines are not useful.

This is the correct analogy.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Vengeance is the wrong way to look at it. There is a salary cap. We have holes to fill. Draft picks. A 17 game schedule and some playoff games to get through with injuries. Think of it as a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces, where you only have to get more of the puzzle done than your opponents. The pieces change shape over time. And you have to bid for the pieces you’re missing. Guillotines are not useful.

Yeah, and there are so many comments about 'stop doing this'/'start doing this', get an explosive offense back, etc.... well, yeah, if they could just summon 2019 offense with 2023 defense every season, they would have already done so. Sadly, this shit doesn't happen in hindsight and you're often dealing with one part of the jigsaw puzzle at the expense of another part.

[BigRedChief]

We are not or shouldn't give anyone a new or longer term contract this off season.

Smith is going to get a huge contract from some team. We signed Creed last season. We have to get a true LT and they are not going to be cheap in $'s and or cash. Thuney may retire and save us some cap room but them we need to replace him.

Kelce should retire. He has obviously slowed down and not much help to the team except in the locker room. Mahomes can handle that part.

The cover isnt bare and you still have McDuffie and Karlaftis for two more years and can franchise one for an additional year. Veach fixed the OL in one off season before, he can do it again so we can make another run at a SB.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We are not or shouldn't give anyone a new or longer term contract this off season.

Smith is going to get a huge contract from some team. We signed Creed last season. We have to get a true LT and they are not going to be cheap in $'s and or cash. Thuney may retire and save us some cap room but them we need to replace him.

Kelce should retire. He has obviously slowed down and not much help to the team except in the locker room. Mahomes can handle that part.

The cover isnt bare and you still have McDuffie and Karlaftis for two more years and can franchise one for an additional year. Veach fixed the OL in one off season before, he can do it again so we can make another run at a SB.

Did he really fix the OL though? We are still suffering at LT and the position has been bandied together with duct tape now for a couple years. We are going to "Andrew Luck" Mahomes at this rate with how many hits he takes from the blind side. Imagine if Mahomes wasn't mobile how many more sacks/hits he would take

[MAG]

Ariaza is horrible and needs to go

[Fishels]

Sky Moore

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Fishels

Sky Moore

Step #1: Disassociate that name from the franchise.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

The only one who comes to mind is Nagy. There's no excuse.

[Hoover]

Frankly, I'd let all free agents walk.

This is an opportunity to do a reset and, and you don't do a rest and play guys like Bolton, Reid, D-Hop, Brown, Charles O, Smith, and Wharton.

Now if someone wants to come back on a steel of a deal, I'll listen, but I'm not paying market rate to stay where I am at.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Frankly, I'd let all free agents walk.

This is an opportunity to do a reset and, and you don't do a rest and play guys like Bolton, Reid, D-Hop, Brown, Charles O, Smith, and Wharton.

Now if someone wants to come back on a steel of a deal, I'll listen, but I'm not paying market rate to stay where I am at.

Fine, but realize it will take 2 years of excellent choices in FA and mid-round draft picks to replace that many contributors, while everyone on the team gets older and closer to the end of their contracts. We probably need to keep half of these guys who make the most sense. Bolton, Brown, Omenihiu, and Wharton would be my priorities, based on production and perceived cost-to-value.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Fine, but realize it will take 2 years of excellent choices in FA and mid-round draft picks to replace that many contributors, while everyone on the team gets older and closer to the end of their contracts. We probably need to keep half of these guys who make the most sense. Bolton, Brown, Omenihiu, and Wharton would be my priorities, based on production and perceived cost-to-value.

No on Bolton, He is way too one dimensional, too slow in coverage and teams took advantage of him despite Spags trying to hide his flaws from teams.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

No on Bolton, He is way too one dimensional, too slow in coverage and teams took advantage of him despite Spags trying to hide his flaws from teams.

Bolton is the main reason why Saquon was nullified, just like CMC and Derrick Henry when they played us. He's worth the extension. We just need complementary LBs who are good in coverage.