Dillon Arrested... - Page 3

**DaKCMan AP** · 08-28-2000, 07:25 PM

Article can be found on CNNSI. Thanks to Robert Vaugh on other BB for finding it.

Article can be found here <a href=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/08/28/dillon_arrested_ap/>Dillon Story</a>

[This message has been edited by morphius (edited 08-28-2000).]

BroncoFan · 08-29-2000, 04:16 AM

Now, (this is my view.) A VERY LARGE part of the GM's job should be geared to the public. Football is entertainment, although it is corporate regarless of what some of us may think it is NOT an essential commodity. It's a business of fun. NOW here is the key part, if The King wants to take a behind the scenes roll and just run the business of the team, great, so be it. That is his choice. However, The King has chosen to live in the public eye, he has chosen to accept accolades for the Chiefs successes and has even created a few accolades of his own, (ex. "The Triple Crown of Turnovers." What the heck is that?) At the same time he has belittled the fans stating, "I will not let the fans dictate to me how to run this football team." He has blamed the media for the Chiefs failures. He has blamed the media for "creating" the Chiefs off the field problems, (now that's a laugh isn't it?) He has blamed the media for placing doubts in players minds, (frankly the folks that I provide a service for use a media to place doubt in my mind if I don't perform!) He has tried to have a reporter arrested (un-successfully) for hanging out at the hospital in Miami during Derricks stay there. He has stated that Lamar Hunt is above criticism and anyone who does criticize him will be flogged publicly (paraphrase.) He has NEVER, EVER one time admitted that he was wrong about anything publicly, (Patton said; "Admit your failures, people will respect you for it.")

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BroncoFan · 08-29-2000, 04:17 AM

The point is "The King" is a PR nightmare, I for one am no longer buying into his hype, I for one no longer have an ounce of respect for him because of his dog and pony show. I have no respect for him because of statements like; "yes, it was a five year plan and we're ten years into it, it's still a five year plan and we will succeed at it." (Who gave him that quote? Elvis?) Need I say any more?

(Do I win the award for the longest most rambling post?)

Raiderhater · 08-29-2000, 07:11 AM

I dont really understand this [i]if he would just apologize in public...[/i]. Apologize for what? Being mean to the media, fans, players, coaches? Apologizing for failure, well maybe, but what’s the point?

He has made his mistakes. I too think the Lowery/Elliott debacle cost us in 1995, but lets remember, that before that playoff game ever occurred, Elliott had been struggling on a regular basis. Neither Marty OR Carl made any attempts to rectify it through personnel change like we did last year--obviously, last year would be a good reason not to mess with personnel.

It has allways been my contention that regardless of personnel, there has to be an underlying philosophy of [b]how[/b] to win. I dont think we have that and I dont think that is the GM’s function, rather it is the coaches. Maybe the GM’s function is to find that guy who will bring that to the team, and that CP could be blamed for, but we dont have a winning philosophy.

I feel bad for Gun, guy works non stop, but in the end, we come out looking like the Keystone Kops on the field. Maybe it’s not how much you work but [b]what[/b] you work on. We are not working on the things that will make us successful, and that is a result of not having a winning philosophy.

In the end, the blame game is old. On both sides there are valid arguments as to why/who is to blame, but the game is tired. We have failed to convert the key first down, make the winning field goal, run the clock out, whatever it is/was at the time, we have failed on the field because our philosophy of [i]just do enough to get by[/i] allways falls short to the philosophy of [i]dominate, attack and win[/i].

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scooter · 08-29-2000, 08:14 AM

So can we officially declare the Dilgasms to be over?

Dillon proved that he was and is a thug and CP made an excellent move by keeping the trash in Cinci.

Kudos CP.

htismaqe · 08-29-2000, 08:36 AM

Of course, when our team starts performing MUCH better than many here seem to think it will, and new young stars start to develop, and we're in the playoff hunt, and when everyone realizes that Gun really does know what he's doing, then none of this will matter.

The only thing that will change is that the Carl haters will have to find something different to hate Carl for.

Luz
i'm sure they will...

Chieffan · 08-29-2000, 09:04 AM

Don't care about how "great" a player is for someone else. There is a "reason" a used car is on the lot..., IMO (humble...NOT), I would rather take 1yd carry less and not read about him in the latest version of COPS. As to "the King", if you miss-allocate your cap dollars into long term contracts for FA's from some other "car lot', the implications are immense down the road. Look at all the money we spend on used cars in this town in the last 10 years because we were always 1 player away. Play the young players.. if they can't perform cut em and get someone else.

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scooter · 08-30-2000, 07:02 AM

Everyone's favourite boy scout was charged with 4th degree assault yesterday. His response was "What happened was a tragedy"

Well duh! Yep spousal abuse is tragic. A 220lb athelete popping his wife till she's bloody ranks right up there on the tragedy scale.

Oh yeah, his thug rep is all in his past. He's a good boy now. He's a piece of trash. CP is looking better by the day on this one.

08-29-2000, 04:16 AM	#31
BroncoFan Missed Everyone Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Now, (this is my view.) A VERY LARGE part of the GM's job should be geared to the public. Football is entertainment, although it is corporate regarless of what some of us may think it is NOT an essential commodity. It's a business of fun. NOW here is the key part, if The King wants to take a behind the scenes roll and just run the business of the team, great, so be it. That is his choice. However, The King has chosen to live in the public eye, he has chosen to accept accolades for the Chiefs successes and has even created a few accolades of his own, (ex. "The Triple Crown of Turnovers." What the heck is that?) At the same time he has belittled the fans stating, "I will not let the fans dictate to me how to run this football team." He has blamed the media for the Chiefs failures. He has blamed the media for "creating" the Chiefs off the field problems, (now that's a laugh isn't it?) He has blamed the media for placing doubts in players minds, (frankly the folks that I provide a service for use a media to place doubt in my mind if I don't perform!) He has tried to have a reporter arrested (un-successfully) for hanging out at the hospital in Miami during Derricks stay there. He has stated that Lamar Hunt is above criticism and anyone who does criticize him will be flogged publicly (paraphrase.) He has NEVER, EVER one time admitted that he was wrong about anything publicly, (Patton said; "Admit your failures, people will respect you for it.") (cont.)<P>
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08-29-2000, 04:17 AM	#32
BroncoFan Missed Everyone Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	The point is "The King" is a PR nightmare, I for one am no longer buying into his hype, I for one no longer have an ounce of respect for him because of his dog and pony show. I have no respect for him because of statements like; "yes, it was a five year plan and we're ten years into it, it's still a five year plan and we will succeed at it." (Who gave him that quote? Elvis?) Need I say any more? (Do I win the award for the longest most rambling post?)
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08-29-2000, 07:11 AM	#33
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $1712021	I dont really understand this [i]if he would just apologize in public...[/i]. Apologize for what? Being mean to the media, fans, players, coaches? Apologizing for failure, well maybe, but what’s the point? He has made his mistakes. I too think the Lowery/Elliott debacle cost us in 1995, but lets remember, that before that playoff game ever occurred, Elliott had been struggling on a regular basis. Neither Marty OR Carl made any attempts to rectify it through personnel change like we did last year--obviously, last year would be a good reason not to mess with personnel. It has allways been my contention that regardless of personnel, there has to be an underlying philosophy of [b]how[/b] to win. I dont think we have that and I dont think that is the GM’s function, rather it is the coaches. Maybe the GM’s function is to find that guy who will bring that to the team, and that CP could be blamed for, but we dont have a winning philosophy. I feel bad for Gun, guy works non stop, but in the end, we come out looking like the Keystone Kops on the field. Maybe it’s not how much you work but [b]what[/b] you work on. We are not working on the things that will make us successful, and that is a result of not having a winning philosophy. In the end, the blame game is old. On both sides there are valid arguments as to why/who is to blame, but the game is tired. We have failed to convert the key first down, make the winning field goal, run the clock out, whatever it is/was at the time, we have failed on the field because our philosophy of [i]just do enough to get by[/i] allways falls short to the philosophy of [i]dominate, attack and win[/i]. [This message has been edited by KCTitus (edited 08-29-2000).]
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08-29-2000, 08:14 AM	#34
scooter Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $9994900	So can we officially declare the Dilgasms to be over? Dillon proved that he was and is a thug and CP made an excellent move by keeping the trash in Cinci. Kudos CP.
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08-29-2000, 08:36 AM	#35
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Of course, when our team starts performing MUCH better than many here seem to think it will, and new young stars start to develop, and we're in the playoff hunt, and when everyone realizes that Gun really does know what he's doing, then none of this will matter. The only thing that will change is that the Carl haters will have to find something different to hate Carl for. Luz i'm sure they will...
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DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6714952	Article can be found on CNNSI. Thanks to Robert Vaugh on other BB for finding it. Article can be found here <a href=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/08/28/dillon_arrested_ap/>Dillon Story</a> [This message has been edited by morphius (edited 08-28-2000).]
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08-29-2000, 09:04 AM	#36
Chieffan Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Don't care about how "great" a player is for someone else. There is a "reason" a used car is on the lot..., IMO (humble...NOT), I would rather take 1yd carry less and not read about him in the latest version of COPS. As to "the King", if you miss-allocate your cap dollars into long term contracts for FA's from some other "car lot', the implications are immense down the road. Look at all the money we spend on used cars in this town in the last 10 years because we were always 1 player away. Play the young players.. if they can't perform cut em and get someone else. [This message has been edited by Oxford (edited 08-29-2000).]
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08-30-2000, 07:02 AM	#37
scooter Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $9994900	Everyone's favourite boy scout was charged with 4th degree assault yesterday. His response was "What happened was a tragedy" Well duh! Yep spousal abuse is tragic. A 220lb athelete popping his wife till she's bloody ranks right up there on the tragedy scale. Oh yeah, his thug rep is all in his past. He's a good boy now. He's a piece of trash. CP is looking better by the day on this one.
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