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Old 09-22-2004, 10:03 AM  
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Mort says it's NOT the scheme....

...it's the talent of the players...and poor tackling that is the problem on the Chiefs D. Check out today's Mort chat on ESPN for link. There you have it. I trust Mort more than a lot of football analysts...although most of us knew that already. Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:08 PM   #31
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I don't believe half the crap that Dick says, and I doubt the other half.
DV's provides his share of BS no doubt but I try to base my opinions on both what I see and by what I read or hear in press conferences and from the national media as well.

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Old 09-22-2004, 12:11 PM   #32
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I watched the first game twice but with the new blackout rules I couldn't TIVO the 2nd. I was at the game and I've seen the highlights replayed enough. On the 71 yarder running play Barber just lets the RB run right past him. I think it's beginning to become apparent why he's floated around from team to team. He lacks dicipline. Now you are prolly right about crashing the line but it's the crashing in the wrong place that's causing the problems. Biting on fakes and leaving their responsibility is what killing the LBs IMO not the scheme.

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your right.. on that particular play, barber got blocked by what looked to be a wide receiver. (not good)

he shouldn't get handled like that


but IIRC both of the other linebackers jumped inside which left Barber all by himself to fill the hole.


"crashing in the wrong place"

that's what im saying... the linebackers are crashing the line of scrimmage because they jump at the snap.

is this scheme? is it bad LB play?


after seeing the linebackers consistantly jump at, if not before the snap of the ball, it seems like they have been coached to do such.

at the very least the coaches have not told them to stop strongly enough.


the quote by gunther "if you dont' see the linebackers running downhill at the snap of the ball...." leads me to believe that it's by design.
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:12 PM   #33
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DV's provides his share of BS no doubt but I try to base my opinions on both what I see and by what I read or hear in press conferences and from the national media as well.

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Srew the freakin' media!
If there's anyone, or any group that I believe less than coaches it's the media.
They are either biassed, uninformed, or just freakin' stupid.

I take more from this forum than the media, by far.

We're all biassed, uninformed or just stupid, but at least we're all honestly that way.
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Old 09-22-2004, 12:17 PM   #34
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...We're all biassed, uninformed or just stupid, but at least we're all honestly that way.

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Old 09-22-2004, 12:23 PM   #35
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We're all biassed, uninformed or just stupid, but at least we're all honestly that way.
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the quote by gunther "if you dont' see the linebackers running downhill at the snap of the ball...." leads me to believe that it's by design.
The downhill part is but I'm not sure about the inside part. I think that's lack of dicipline. They were pretty good in the first half against Carolina but then they pooped in thier hat.

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Old 09-22-2004, 12:30 PM   #36
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The downhill part is but I'm not sure about the inside part. I think that's lack of dicipline. They were pretty good in the first half against Carolina but then they pooped in thier hat.

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but IMO ... just my opinion... having the linebackers commit before/at the snap is gonna be a problem no matter what.

it amounts to guessing about the play


cutbacks and play action passes will just kill us if we guess all the time.


attacking is fine... but you must read the play, then attack.


(please dont confuse that with the "read and react" of GR's defense, it's not the same)
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