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Old 07-04-2009, 02:15 PM  
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:54 PM   #436
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:02 PM   #437
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:35 PM   #438
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Former NFL star Steve McNair was shot dead in his sleep last week by a 20-year-old girlfriend distraught about mounting financial problems and her belief that he was seeing someone else, police said Wednesday.

Investigators may never know why Kazemi shot McNair four times as he dozed on a sofa early Saturday before turning the gun on herself, Police Chief Ronal Serpas said


But interviews with friends revealed that she was making payments on two cars, her rent was doubling and she suspected the married McNair was having a second affair with another young woman.

She told a friend on Friday that "My life is a ball of s--- and I should end it," Serpas said.

Police earlier had labeled McNair's death a homicide, but waited for further tests and the revelations about Kazemi's personal problems before concluding that she pulled the trigger in a condominium McNair rented with a friend

We do know that she was clearly sending a message during the last five to seven days of her life that things were going bad quickly," Serpas said, though there was no indication she told anyone she planned to harm McNair.

Serpas said detectives learned that Kazemi recently found out about another young woman she thought McNair was romantically involved with and had even followed that woman home, though she did not confront her.

Serpas said police believe McNair was asleep when he was killed because there were no defensive wounds. After shooting McNair in the head, Kazemi apparently shot him twice in the chest before shooting him again in the head and then shooting herself. The gun was found underneath her.

She sat next to his body and tried to position herself to fall into his lap when she died. She did, but her body slid to the floor and ended up at McNair's feet, Serpas said. The gun was found underneath her.

Kazemi's family told reporters that the woman was so confident McNair was divorcing his wife of 12 years that she was preparing to sell her furniture and move in with him.

But associate Mike Mu, who has worked with McNair's charitable association for years, said McNair's wife, Mechelle McNair, "didn't know who this girl is." No records of divorce proceedings have surfaced.

Two days before the shooting, police stopped Kazemi driving the Cadillac Escalade sport utility vehicle that McNair had given her for her birthday in May.

According to an arrest affidavit, Kazemi had bloodshot eyes and alcohol on her breath. She refused a breath test and told an officer "she was not drunk, she was high." She was charged with DUI. McNair was with her but not charged. He later made her bail.

Serpas said that even though both her name and McNair's were on the Cadillac's title, she was apparently responsible for making payments. She was also making payments on another car after she couldn't sell it.
I was thinking it was maybe the wife who had hired a pro to make it look this way, but this makes it seem more and more remote.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:15 PM   #439
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So he was cheating on his wife with her, and she was mad that he was cheating on her with another woman? Seems to me that it shouldn't have been a surprise.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:19 PM   #440
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I have a question, and I hope it's not too morbid.

If someone shoots you in your sleep, do you even know it happened? Would you instantly lose consciousness and die without pain or knowledge? Or is there any moment of awareness that occurs?

As tempting as it is to envy a death without pain, there's something that seems very unfair and unsatisfying about dying without knowing about it. It would seem to be a life incomplete, and I don't think I'd want that fate.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:02 PM   #441
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:06 PM   #442
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I have a question, and I hope it's not too morbid.

If someone shoots you in your sleep, do you even know it happened? Would you instantly lose consciousness and die without pain or knowledge? Or is there any moment of awareness that occurs?

As tempting as it is to envy a death without pain, there's something that seems very unfair and unsatisfying about dying without knowing about it. It would seem to be a life incomplete, and I don't think I'd want that fate.
The last time I died I was shot in my sleep. Never felt a thing.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:06 PM   #443
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You're confident it was the last time, and not a time or two before that?
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:09 PM   #444
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I have a question, and I hope it's not too morbid.

If someone shoots you in your sleep, do you even know it happened? Would you instantly lose consciousness and die without pain or knowledge? Or is there any moment of awareness that occurs?

As tempting as it is to envy a death without pain, there's something that seems very unfair and unsatisfying about dying without knowing about it. It would seem to be a life incomplete, and I don't think I'd want that fate.


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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Former NFL star Steve McNair was shot dead in his sleep last week by a 20-year-old girlfriend distraught about mounting financial problems and her belief that he was seeing someone else, police said Wednesday.

Investigators may never know why Kazemi shot McNair four times as he dozed on a sofa early Saturday before turning the gun on herself, Police Chief Ronal Serpas said

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You're confident it was the last time, and not a time or two before that?
Must have been the last time,.... I think,... Now you got me thinking.
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Must have been the last time,.... I think,... Now you got me thinking.
Ahhh but more importantly when was the first time you died?

And have you learned anything since?
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Ahhh but more importantly when was the first time you died?

And have you learned anything since?
I learned that we die everyday. The Frankie of yesterday is dead and gone and will never come back.



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Old 07-08-2009, 10:38 PM   #449
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Must have been the last time,.... I think,... Now you got me thinking.
Who knows how long we carry those memories in our subconscious? Although I'd tend to agree it's rather recent in most cases.
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