Peyton Manning

[Tango&Cash]

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

you know how you can make this objective analysis dont you? by how awesome his passes look. i mean they just want to make me blow my load on the screen when ever he completes a 15 yard crossing pattern with clark.

THATS how i know hes better than brady

I dont even know how to respond to this.

Pats won their sb's more so because of their defense, than Tom Terrific being great. That and the most clutch kicker I've ever seen in Vinatieri.

Peyton's been on some teams that have had defenses that are borderline, 2002 Chiefs bad. That 2003 game at Arrowhead where no one punted the entire game is a good example of that. Manning played great, but had to have a few things go their way for them to come out as winners in that game. Priest's fumble, the horse shit offensive PI call on TonyG (one of the most horse shit calls I've ever seen in my life btw) etc.

They're both great QB's. But I'd much rather have Manning as my signal caller. He's just a better QB.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

I dont even know how to respond to this.

Pats won their sb's more so because of their defense, than Tom Terrific being great. That and the most clutch kicker I've ever seen in Vinatieri.

I love Vinatieri, don't get me wrong, but was he that clutch when he blew two completely make-able field goals in one of his Super Bowls? He's made some of hte toughest kicks ever, but don't pretend for a second that he hasn't blown some big kicks too.

Peyton's been on some teams that have had defenses that are borderline, 2002 Chiefs bad.

How has Brady's offensive weapons stacked up against Manning's? At least prior to 2007?

And you obviously didn't see our crappy 2002 defense, or what we've had going on this year.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

How has Brady's offensive weapons stacked up against Manning's? At least prior to 2007?

This argument is dead.

Try to follow along.

Harrison retires.

Enter Garcon and Collie.

Suddenly both look like all-pro caliber receivers...

Hmm...

Wonder what the common denominator is?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

Who's better, Brady or Manning?

Put Brady on the Colts and Manning on the Pats and I'd bet Peyton Manning would have more SB's than Tom Terrific right now.

Based on what? His ability to choke in big games early in his career? The complete lack of elite offensive players around him (if he were playing for the Patriots), especially at the WR spot, until 2007? His inability (if he were playing for the Pats) to played in domes 9 games per year (8 at home, plus one in Texas) plus another game in perfect-weather-360-days-a-year-or-your-money-back-Jacksonville to help pad his stats, instead of playing in crappy New England weather, plus games in Buffalo and New York?

When splooging over his stats, remember what he's had to work with, and the inherent advantages he's had in his situation.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Based on what? His ability to choke in big games early in his career? The complete lack of elite offensive players around him, especially at the WR spot, until 2007? His inability to played in domes 9 games per year (8 at home, plus one in Texas) plus another game in perfect-weather-360-days-a-year-or-your-money-back-Jacksonville to help pad his stats, instead of playing in crappy New England weather, plus games in Buffalo and New York?

When splooging over his stats, remember what he's had to work with, and the inherent advantages he's had in his situation.

you're a joke man...you really are

even THIS site has closed the book on the Manning/Brady debate...

have you noticed that this thread has shifted from Brady/Manning to GOAT?

I've always based these threads off of Brady/Manning...

and people have finally figured out that Brady can't even sniff Manning's jock...

sorry dude...

It's over.

That's why all you're seeing is Montana now...people hate Manning on this site...but they can no longer chuck Brady's name out there because they realized how much of a fraud he really is when it comes to the GOAT talk...

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

you're a joke man...you really are

even THIS site has closed the book on the Manning/Brady debate...

err....maybe. But that's primarily because Brady was out for all of 2008 and 2009 sucked for the Patriots in general, with him having a "meh" year. Meanwhile, Peyton had another good year, so memories being short...

Look, he's won four MVPs. I'm not blind to that. It's hardly like I missed that fact. Or that he has more MVPs than anyone in NFL history. Well done. Applaud. But we'll see what 2010 and beyond brings.

have you noticed that this thread has shifted from Brady/Manning to GOAT?

Well, except for a few nujobs like yourself who can't separate their lips from Manning's rear, it's mostly about how he's NOT the GOAT.

and people have finally figured out that Brady can't even sniff Manning's jock...

sorry dude...

It's over.

Which is why you spend all your time talking about it.

Look, honestly, I've always said I'd be perfectly happy with EITHER as my QB. You can tell me Manning is better, but all I see is far too many playoff choke jobs which make me REALLY happy to have Tom Brady and three rings and not Peyton adn one ring. Thanksallthesame.

That's why all you're seeing is Montana now...people hate Manning on this site...but they can no longer chuck Brady's name out there because they realized how much of a fraud he really is when it comes to the GOAT talk...

Except for 2007 when Brady went nuts with Moss, there has never been that much talk of Brady as GOAT.

And as I said, except for you and a few others, there isn't much talk of Manning as GOAT either.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by Tango&Cash

Who's better, Brady or Manning?

Put Brady on the Colts and Manning on the Pats and I'd bet Peyton Manning would have more SB's than Tom Terrific right now.

yeah im sure tom wouldnt be able to do anything with scrubasses like wayne, harrison, clark or james...

[DBOSHO]

...and he FINALLY shows.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

...and he FINALLY shows.

I've made 50+ posts in this thread moron.

[L.A. Chieffan]

all things being equal id still rather have brady. just mo
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[L.A. Chieffan]

at least brady pre-pollard version
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[The Tom Dragon]

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

at least brady pre-pollard version
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pre pollard? isn't it odd because he had a bad defense he automatically sucks now...he had his second best season in every passing category

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by The Tom Dragon

pre pollard? isn't it odd because he had a bad defense he automatically sucks now...he had his second best season in every passing category

and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

[The Tom Dragon]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

and once again..what happened in the last 3 minutes of the super bowl?

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

its quite obvious that its toms fault that the defense was giving up 35yds per rush and the oline couldnt block a pee-wee football team.