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Old 05-02-2012, 09:45 AM   #1
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Jesus, people, I'm not saying Freeman is a top 5 QB.

Just that we'd be a lot better off with him at QB than Cassel.

At least he's capable of completing more than 60 percent of his passes.

Cassel is doing well to hit 58 percent.
Fair enough. I just don't consider him a Franchise guy which is what we ultimately want.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:20 AM   #2
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Fair enough. I just don't consider him a Franchise guy which is what we ultimately want.
The point is, Freeman COULD STILL BE a franchise QB.

The book is closed on Cassel, however.
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The point is, Freeman COULD STILL BE a franchise QB.

The book is closed on Cassel, however.
The book never opened.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #4
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The book never opened.
Was there even a book to begin with? I thought it was more of a pamphlet...
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:05 AM   #5
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If Briscoe and Parker and some dogshit HB named Lumpkin is your defense, I win. Those are all nothing players.

Especially with the 32nd ranked defense making the Bucs constantly play from behind.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #6
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So the book is still open on Sanchez and Quinn?
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:28 AM   #7
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So the book is still open on Sanchez and Quinn?
Sanchez is still young but it's obvious he's got something upstairs that is preventing him from flourishing. I think he's a spoiled brat myself, so while his book is still open, I'm not sure it's worth reading.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:29 AM   #8
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So the book is still open on Sanchez and Quinn?
Sanchez, yes. Quinn, not really.

Sometimes a QB prospect hits the lottery like Sanchez. He goes to a team with a top 5 defense and top 5 running game. He isn't asked to do much and the team wins. Quinn went to the Browns. No top 5 defense, no top anything and he suffered a few injuries early on. Basically, it's career over.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:37 AM   #9
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Sanchez, yes. Quinn, not really.

Sometimes a QB prospect hits the lottery like Sanchez. He goes to a team with a top 5 defense and top 5 running game. He isn't asked to do much and the team wins. Quinn went to the Browns. No top 5 defense, no top anything and he suffered a few injuries early on. Basically, it's career over.
We have the potential to be that kind of team, but the defense is probably a year away from top 5.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:40 AM   #10
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Sanchez, yes. Quinn, not really.

Sometimes a QB prospect hits the lottery like Sanchez. He goes to a team with a top 5 defense and top 5 running game. He isn't asked to do much and the team wins. Quinn went to the Browns. No top 5 defense, no top anything and he suffered a few injuries early on. Basically, it's career over.
So basically he was put in a shitty no win situation?
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:49 AM   #11
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So basically he was put in a shitty no win situation?
IMHO, you occasionally have that once in a decade QB that can really mask a lot of weaknesses and win games. At this early point, it looks like Cam Newton could be one of those guys. Other than those guys, I think most other QB's need a really good support system in place and they need a system carefully designed around them.

Big Ben won his first year because of the team around him. If he was on the Browns I don't think they go to the Super Bowl instead.
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IMHO, you occasionally have that once in a decade QB that can really mask a lot of weaknesses and win games. At this early point, it looks like Cam Newton could be one of those guys. Other than those guys, I think most other QB's need a really good support system in place and they need a system carefully designed around them.

Big Ben won his first year because of the team around him. If he was on the Browns I don't think they go to the Super Bowl instead.
I agree.



I've said it before, but IMO, it's more about situation than anything.
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So the book is still open on Sanchez and Quinn?
Yes.

Sanchez is young enough that he still has an opportunity. Quinn on the other hand pretty much has this last stop to prove that he's worth anything. The dude has the talent.....he's just been stuck in some shitty ****ing situations.
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Yep, he's not even close to as good as Cassel.

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They had the #32 scoring defense.

And I'm sorry Josh Freeman isn't as good as the best QB in the league.
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